Celene, here is the phone number to the nursery:
760-941-3613
Website: www.kartuz.com
I spoke with a perfectly delightful old gentleman in his 70's who advised me he & his brother own the nursery. They have 2-3 employees I think??? Or maybe it was three total with the brothers. We had a nice long chat after I placed my order. He was in no hurry to get rid of me, nor I him. His brother was near his age.
