Thanks Wes, and I was asking because I just started selling DLs online. So, I wanted to get an idea of what the norm was. I'm glad I asked because it seems there is no norm. I've been fortunate too with purchasing plants online. I only had one plant that I've bought online that looked kinda funky, but it is finally looking a lot better. Other than that, the fans I've received looked fine and have grown great, including my BOGO free DLs from Gilbert-Wilde. I'm keeping my fingers crossed because I've bought some fans on the LA, and they should be coming soon. So, let's hope my luck continues ...