I broke down and ordered Berry Garcia from MB today because of you two, graycrna4u and Karen! I don't know which is right but what MB was showing is nothing like the one I got from Select Plus several years ago, it'll be interesting to compare the 2 side by side. The 2 I got from them last year are doing well, starting to see some growth but my cats pulled out the tags before I got them planted outside so I don't know which is which! I might have to switch tags when they finally bloom....