I first chatted with Polly several years ago on the iris forum on DG. After she received some crude comments from another DG member she left as did Betja. I followed them to cubits and then ATP. People who we will never meet personally become friends here because we love the same things, our plants, flowers, gardens etc. I tell my children that if I don't answer my phone some day and they come and find that I have passed while in the garden I will have died happy......