Thanks Greg. I am growing Graptopetalum, but don't have any echeverias. I will give them a try. I do grow most of my succulents (and all cactus) in pots, under a covered patio. That way I can control the amount of water they get. Though I can't do much about the humidity! I brought most all of what I have when I moved from Austin in March, which has a much drier climate, so I'm anxious to see how things do here. Especially in a mild, wet winter.