Thanks Tarev. I am having goldie locks rain now. Just the perfect amount. No tornados or lightening just calm soothing rain that I really need. My echeverias are all flattening out and look like different plants. I work outside all the time and when it actually rains I do not know what to do with myself. I live on a 1200ft above sea level hill so it could rain buckets for years and we would be very wet but o.k. I am feeling for the folks that live in the flood plains though. Heard you got some rain? I am hoping this will kick start my aeoniums.