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Aug 20, 2020 10:29 AM CST
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I have one spot in the Rose Bed that get direct sun 4 to 6 hours day. It does get sun light all day. Depend on the time of the year it gets covered in the shade from a dogwood bush for a part of the day.

I am looking for a rose plant , preferably a Hybrid Tea which will do good in that area.
All suggestions welcome.

Thanks
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Aug 20, 2020 10:54 AM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
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To get a meaningful response to such an open-ended question, perhaps you could narrow it down by providing some additional information about your own preferences:

Do you have a color preference?
Would you prefer a short HT (up to 3 feet), medium HT (up to four to five feet) or tall HT (six feet and higher)?
Do you prefer a rose with fragrance, or does that matter?

Even by answering those questions, there will still be dozens, if not hundreds, of options.
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Aug 20, 2020 11:04 AM CST
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(Zone 5b)
Roses
Thanks Mike

Do you have a color preference? - no

Would you prefer a short HT (up to 3 feet), medium HT (up to four to five feet) or tall HT (six feet and higher)? medium HT (up to four to five feet)

Do you prefer a rose with fragrance, or does that matter? Does not matter.

I though the roses need minimum of 6 hours of direct sun.That particular spot do not get 6 hours of direct sun, that's why I am looking for options.
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Aug 20, 2020 11:49 AM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
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Check out the shade-tolerant section of Rogue Valley Nursery's website, and peruse the result by looking for Hybrid Teas by height in the captions beneath the thumbnail photos at: https://roguevalleyroses.com/s...

There won't be as many HTs as other varieties such as some of the floribundas or most of the hybrid musks, for example, because HTs as a rule need a lot of sun. But there will be a few.
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Aug 20, 2020 1:13 PM CST
Thread OP
(Zone 5b)
Roses
Mike Thanks for the link
I did find following HT suitable for Zone 5, shade Tolerant

• Double Delight- HT-Red-Dieses Resistance-Height 5 ft
• Golden Buddha-HT-Yellow-Height- 3ft.
• Ingrid Bergman-HT-Red-Very Disease Resistance-Height 3 ft.
• Medallion-HT-Apricot-Disease resistance-Height 6 ft.
• Sheer Bliss-HT-White Blend-Disease Resistance-Height 6 ft.
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Aug 20, 2020 3:20 PM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
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I've grown Sheer Bliss in partial shade, and have always been impressed with the "sheer" size to its blooms; they are quite large, and make a good cut flower for the bud vase (see photo below). However, sometimes the blooms could easily "shatter" - but it's a one-of-a-kind rose in my opinion.



Just last night I was looking at Golden Buddha and giving it some serious consideration.
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Aug 20, 2020 5:46 PM CST
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Garden Photography Region: Michigan Roses
I've never known Double Delight to be shade tolerant. It may grow in some shade but it won't bloom as much. Nor will it change colors the way it is known for. And, I don't know what disease it is resistant to because it got them all in my yard! Don't get me wrong, it is a gorgeous rose! But you may be disappointed with its performance.

You list zone 5 but where are you? Most HTs are a little winter tender. Unless that spot is pretty winter protected you may want to look for something a bit hardier.
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Aug 20, 2020 6:07 PM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
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Jack, Ingrid Bergman is probably the most hardy of the ones you've listed. It's rated down to Zone 4b, so it might be your best bet. And it's a classic, popular rose.
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Aug 20, 2020 8:54 PM CST
Thread OP
(Zone 5b)
Roses
seilMI said:I've never known Double Delight to be shade tolerant. It may grow in some shade but it won't bloom as much. Nor will it change colors the way it is known for. And, I don't know what disease it is resistant to because it got them all in my yard! Don't get me wrong, it is a gorgeous rose! But you may be disappointed with its performance.

You list zone 5 but where are you? Most HTs are a little winter tender. Unless that spot is pretty winter protected you may want to look for something a bit hardier.


I am in Denver Colorado, consider zone 5b
The list is from Rogue Valley roses, they have listed Double Delight as shade tolerant, this may be wrong.I will remove from the list.
Thanks
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Aug 20, 2020 10:24 PM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Ideas: Level 1
I have grown my grafted Double Delight which I purchased from Jackson & Perkins in partial shade for the last 25+ years.
Thumb of 2020-08-21/MargieNY/82c3a2


Thumb of 2020-08-21/MargieNY/abfe7b


Thumb of 2020-08-21/MargieNY/692796





Please read my next post - sorry about the duplicate photos.
Observe, observe, observe
We are fortunate to "see" & appreciate nature in ways others are blind.
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Aug 20, 2020 10:53 PM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Ideas: Level 1
I have grown my grafted Double Delight which I purchased from Jackson & Perkins in partial shade for the last 25+ years.
Thumb of 2020-08-21/MargieNY/82c3a2


Thumb of 2020-08-21/MargieNY/abfe7b


Thumb of 2020-08-21/MargieNY/692796





here's an interesting article:
https://www.all-my-favourite-f...

I think the coloring is influenced by a few factors: heat, the sun (UV rays) and the time allowed to go by. By time, I mean if I took these photos maybe 8 hrs. later they would appear to have more red coloring in them. You can see that in the first photo.
Observe, observe, observe
We are fortunate to "see" & appreciate nature in ways others are blind.
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Aug 21, 2020 8:03 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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Aug 21, 2020 8:05 AM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
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Aug 22, 2020 7:17 AM CST
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(Zone 5b)
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Mike said:Jack, Ingrid Bergman is probably the most hardy of the ones you've listed. It's rated down to Zone 4b, so it might be your best bet. And it's a classic, popular rose.


Mike Thanks for the suggestion, I will ordering the "Ingrid Bergman" I checked the Palatine site today and it is showing zon 6b-10b https://palatineroses.com/rose...

Wikepedia showing zone 4b- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

I will still order this.
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Aug 22, 2020 7:37 AM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Dog Lover Cat Lover Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Region: New York
Good choice.
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