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Jan 19, 2021 8:21 PM CST
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Coastal TX (Sunset 28/31) (Zone 9a)
I love, love, love pictures of climbing roses but, as a daily deadheader of my beloved shrub roses, I shudder at the thought of dead flowers hanging just out of reach. And I am NOT dragging a ladder all over except for twice-annual pruning and training.

But I think I'm finally going to bite the bullet next year and start training a climber across the front of my garage.

I want something:
1. BIG (at least 15 feet, could be much bigger)
2. White, off-white, or fades-to-white
3. Reblooms at least some.
4. Relatively disease resistant in hot, humid climates.
5. Not terribly thorny. (Oops, there goes New Dawn).
6. Pretty good at self-cleaning (doesn't have to be perfect)

The crown of the rose will be in HARSH. sun, but the roots will be in moist shade. So I need a rose that's rather heat-tough but it doesn't have to be super-duper heat-tough.

I love fragrant roses, but fragrance isn't a priority for this rose.

I'm open to any number of petals.

Madame Alfred Carriere is an appealing option in many ways, but I can't find anything about how badly it needs to be deadheaded.

Or, does anyone have a white-ish climber they'd recommend?

Thank you so much in advance!
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Jan 19, 2021 8:46 PM CST
Name: Dirt
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Hilarious! I'm sorry for laughing, but, I just can't imagine the trouble I'd be in with daily deadheading compulsions!

I have a relatively newish Mme Alfred Carriere, and I do not struggle to remember the fragrance or the relatively fewer thorns, but, I cannot recall if it seemed to self-clean or not...I'll have to pay more attention next year.

I've got mine in a big spot that I cleared between a tree and a fence and some ~ 6' shrubs--
It is poised to fill its spot soon and I was very impressed with it last year (2nd yr), so hoping next year will be even better.
Anyway, it's a great rose and I hope someone comes along who can answer your question.
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Jan 19, 2021 8:50 PM CST
Name: Lola
Tasmania
Region: Australia Birds Garden Photography Cottage Gardener Farmer Irises
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I have a few MACs and she is self-cleaning for me. I have her where I can see her from my office window and it would drive me insane if I had to look out at dead blooms and bits of brown crispy stuff hanging on.
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Jan 19, 2021 8:54 PM CST
Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
I deadhead Mme. Alfred Carriere and Cl. Iceberg, but I've heard that Sombreuil is self-cleaning. I've heard rave reviews about Sombreuil.
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Jan 20, 2021 1:46 PM CST
Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
Would you consider a single?
White. Intense musk fragrance.
Thorns, but not excessive.
Mildew-resistant . . . (Don't know about BS.)

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"Secret Garden Musk Climber"

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Jan 20, 2021 5:08 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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I think I definitely need that rose!
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Jan 22, 2021 6:54 AM CST
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche,Rio Negro, Argentina (Zone 8a)
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What about a hip setting once blooming single rose like 'Wickwar'
https://www.helpmefind.com/gar...

I realize that I have not posted a picture of it (yet) for the db here....(my fault)... Thumbs down
It's blooming its head off literally covered in blooms, single white similar to the SGMCl posted by jerijen.. The hips are really lovelly so that after the petals drop off cleanly, later in the season small orange hips hang on until late winter...thus you don't need to deadhead it at all! The leaves are bluish grey and quite persistent here into late fall.

My Mme A.C. drops entirely its petals so does 'Sombreuil' . Both would fit wihin the scope of your search querrie.

Arturo
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Jan 22, 2021 11:43 AM CST
Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
You mean I am doing all that extra work deadheading when I don't need to? It's a pillar rose, and the shriveled petals stay on for a couple of weeks before they fall off. I didn't notice if it starts to form hips or not. I did read in one of my rose books last night that it is excellent for a north wall.
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Jan 22, 2021 2:49 PM CST
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche,Rio Negro, Argentina (Zone 8a)
Dahlias Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Roses
@reh0622 Rosemary, I was suggesting a different kind of climber that one deliberately does not dead head . My Mme AC. hardly ever sets hips and the petals drop off cleanly. I suppose that it may be different in different locations though. What I can tell that both aren't source of that type concern here. I do have others that keep their shrivelled petals, thus needy of dead heading.I dead head more to stimulate re-blooming than for aesthetics. When the season is over the last dead heading is part of my general pruning scheme. My 'Sombreuil' is getting ready for its second ( this year big) flush.
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Jan 23, 2021 8:26 PM CST
Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
Today I was pruning at the garden where I volunteer, and found a rosehip on MAC from a bloom I missed. So you can get hips if you don't deadhead. But seeing it's a 100 year rose (when it was first introduced), I guess that would be expected if you have bees in the area.
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May 10, 2021 8:09 AM CST
Thread OP
Coastal TX (Sunset 28/31) (Zone 9a)
Thank you so, so much everyone! I got 'Madame Alfred Carriere ' and planted her in the chosen spot next to my driveway. I'm going to train her up a pillar. When she reaches the top, I'll install a second pillar on the other side of the driveway, and swag a rope between the two to train her across. That way, I can let her droop down to about 7' high—plenty high for everyday passage of cars and people. But if we ever need to let a delivery truck into the driveway, we can lift up the rope to let it past.

I'll deadhead what I can reach while standing on the ground, and let the higher flowers take care of themselves.

I'm definitely thinking about getting ''Sombreuil' next year to train her on a section of my back fence. She's so pretty!

As for Secret Garden Musk Climber...I would already own that if I could find it. I'm not sure where I would put her, but I would find a spot!
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May 15, 2021 1:43 PM CST
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
I'm so bummed my MME Alfred Carriere didn't make it from Burlington. So I have to replace it. Along with Sombreuil, Cl Cecile Brunner, and Cl SDLM. But it's ending springish starting summer here. So I'll have to wait until next year to replace them unfortunately.
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May 15, 2021 11:03 PM CST
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
I I might order a gallon size from ARE during their thanksgiving day free shipping sale. I'm not sure if there is a minimum number of roses but it's a fantastic deal. My 1st 1 died but now they're doing fine. Choose your shipping time also.
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