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Jan 24, 2013 6:35 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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Great photo Cameron. Nice sharp and clear photo. Makes me all excited that spring is just around the corner. This was my first upright sedum, and I love it.
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Jan 24, 2013 7:55 PM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
Thanks Lynn! I'm definitely ready for Spring. It was 78 here today and next week we may see some more 70 degree weather. I almost lost my Autumn Joy sedum last Summer. Its so nice to see the little sprouts emerging. I also have Blue Spruce sedum. For some reason all of my sedums nearly die off every Summer.
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Jan 24, 2013 10:22 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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The drought season can be very hard on them. If they don't get enough water they go dormant and wait for rain to come. Most will come back.
Blue Spruce also reseeds itself if you let the seed head ripen.
I am so glad you didn't loose them.
How many different sedum to you have?
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Jan 25, 2013 5:48 AM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
I had another container of Blue Spruce sedum but the whole plant died. I'm glad I still have one container left. My Blue Spruce has never bloomed, even though I've had it for 4 or 5 years. I have 3 types: Blue Spruce, Autumn Joy, and a variegated sedum. I had Dragon's Blood but it died.
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Jan 25, 2013 8:49 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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The sedum really need more water during your Texas hot/dry season. Even here in Oregon they require more water than say my sempervivum.
Maybe even shade in the hottest part of the day.
Hope they do better for you this year.
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Jan 25, 2013 12:15 PM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
I have mine in clay containers. Maybe I will take a few pieces and grow them in the ground.
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Jan 25, 2013 12:22 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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I think they will do much better for you in the ground, or in glazed pots. The clay ones dry out to quickly.
I really look forward to seeing how they do for you this year.
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Jan 25, 2013 12:24 PM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
I have one flowerbed that gets shade during the afternoon so I may plant some there. I really hope they do well this year.
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Jan 25, 2013 12:30 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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They should. The tall upright sedum might need a little more sun. You can mulch them to help retain water.
Once you get it figures out on which need more sun, and which less sun, you will be growing them like a pro.
They will reward you will many years of beauty.

I finally figured out that my S. 'Limelight' was much happier in some afternoon filtered shade. It now grows beautifully for me.
So just play around with placement, soil, mulch, light, and you will be greatly rewarded.
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Jan 25, 2013 1:15 PM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
I enjoy sedums. I'm trying to grow more drought tolerant plants this year. I'll definitely need plenty of mulch because I created a new flowerbed for zinnias.
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Jan 25, 2013 1:20 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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I can't wait to see your new bed in glorious bloom. I love zinnias.
Is your soil sandy, or clay? Either way, adding lots of compost before planting and then mulching will help preserve moisture. Your growing conditions are much tougher than mine.
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Jan 25, 2013 2:07 PM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
I started liking zinnias after I planted my candy cane zinnias. I bought some more today. I've been trying to look for the very tall red ones. I did see one with salmon color blooms. I had some many butterflies in my yard last year because of the zinnias. My soil is clay and its so difficult to work with. I've been using Black Kow composted cow manure to amend my flowerbeds. I do have a few pockets of sandy loam but my soil is mostly "gumbo" clay. Here is a picture of my new flowerbed. I still have plenty of work to do on it.

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My Blue Spruce sedum
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Jan 25, 2013 2:21 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Your Blue Spruce is looking great.
That bed is going to be gorgeous filled with colorful zinnias. It makes me smile just thinking about it.

We have clay here also. Very heavy clay. Over the years we've added truck loads of composted forest products. It is finally doing much better.
The alpine type plants I grow in raised beds filled with the compost, sand and pea gravel or chicken grit. They love it. Nice and fast draining for our long rainy season in winter and spring.
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Jan 25, 2013 5:58 PM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
Thanks Lynn! I'm really looking forward to planting zinnias. Today I bought a packet of Red hot poker seeds and some Blue Bedder salvia. The rainy season here is usually May, June and October. Winters can usually be dry here. I've been looking everywhere for chicken grit. I went to 3 different feed stores and none carried it.
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Jan 25, 2013 6:57 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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I can't believe the feed stores don't carry chicken grit.
Have you called this one? http://www.wbfarmstore.net/
http://www.yelp.com/biz/wells-...

I would just call them first.
The chicken grit makes a really nice top dressing for my succulents beds.
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Jan 25, 2013 7:06 PM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
The Wells Brothers store was the first one I went too. The lady there said they only had crushed oyster shells.
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Jan 25, 2013 7:51 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Well how odd is that? And they can't order it for you?

Check with Lowe's or Home Depot for the small pea gravel, although I do prefer the chicken grit because it is smaller.
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