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Nov 7, 2023 4:57 PM CST
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Name: Jane Joy
Florida (Zone 10a)
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Does anyone have any recommended rose varieties and nurseries in Florida? (Ideally central) I really want to get into growing roses. I do not have any yet.. but desparately want to get started. I am interested in old garden varieties as I hear they are heartier and I want to get some established in the ground. Cursory searches resulted in me finding this one: https://www.rosepetalsnursery....

I am also open to recommendations for online stores if anybody has any.

Also, would climbers work well with a wooden fence and/or climbing up the side of a house?

Thanks for reading
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Nov 7, 2023 5:51 PM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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A Reverence for Roses is a great nursery to check out. I've bought from them before as have several other people on here and you get great plants.

www.areverenceforroses.com

As for actual roses I know from what I've read that down there you want roses grafted onto Fortuniana rootstock because they will hold up to the nematodes better than others. I can't offer varieties since I grow in a totally different zone but I do know there are lots of options and we'll help you get going in that direction.
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Nov 7, 2023 5:55 PM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
Bookworm Cat Lover Dog Lover Region: Missouri Native Plants and Wildflowers Roses
Region: United States of America Zinnias Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Ugh, my link messed up. Let me try again here.

https://www.areverenceforroses...
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Nov 7, 2023 6:02 PM CST
Name: Patricia
Northeast Ohio (Zone 6a)
deadbilly said: Does anyone have any recommended rose varieties and nurseries in Florida? (Ideally central) I really want to get into growing roses. I do not have any yet.. but desparately want to get started. I am interested in old garden varieties as I hear they are heartier and I want to get some established in the ground. Cursory searches resulted in me finding this one: https://www.rosepetalsnursery....

I am also open to recommendations for online stores if anybody has any.

Also, would climbers work well with a wooden fence and/or climbing up the side of a house?

Thanks for reading


Another great one is Angel Gardens. All her roses are grown organically and she's an honest business lady.

https://angelgardens.com/
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Nov 7, 2023 6:06 PM CST
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
Also coolroses
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Nov 7, 2023 6:21 PM CST
Name: Bea
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I luv hybrid tea roses too. Portland is the city of roses. But I am in the coastal PNW,it rains so much here and cold snowy wet weather so many roses get black spot no matter what I do. So I only grow shrub roses and climbers resistant to diseases, just for less maintenance. They are easy care in this zone.

I googled this : By definition, a Florida-Friendly rose is one that's suited to the site and requires little maintenance. Good examples include old garden roses like 'Louis Philippe', 'Mutabilis', and 'Mrs. B.R. Cant'. See the data base here . https://garden.org/plants/sear...
Check out your local nurseries for recommendations.

And university.. https://gardeningsolutions.ifa....

The nematodes in the soil is an issue in some areas in Florida. Some gardeners have better luck growing roses in pots they do quite well in pots.
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Nov 9, 2023 2:15 PM CST
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Name: Jane Joy
Florida (Zone 10a)
Hi
Oh great! Thank you all for the information, hybrid tea roses are very nice. Are any particular types of roses better for making rose water or does it just come down to what varieties appeal to you in the first place?

I saw UF recommends 'Mrs. B. R. Cant', 'Spice', 'Louis Philippe', Knock Out roses. Louise Philippe looks particularly appealing to me. Has anyone grown these varieties?

Also, I am assuming areveranceforroses does not sell bare root roses?

Thanks again
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Nov 9, 2023 5:20 PM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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No, they are in gallon pots.
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Nov 9, 2023 5:46 PM CST
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If your location in Florida has high concentrations of root-knot nematodes, you won't want to plant own-root roses. They'll only last about a year in your garden. Roses grafted onto Dr. Huey and multiflora might last for three years. The only nematode-resistant rootstock is Rosa fortuniana.

K&M Nursery sells roses grafted onto fortuniana. It's set up for on-line ordering.

https://www.kandmroses.com/

And here's what K&M has to say about the rootstock.

https://www.kandmroses.com/for...

Nelson's Florida Roses also sells these roses through a variety of retail sellers.

https://nelsonsfloridaroses.co...

Here's the list of their authorized retailers:

https://nelsonsfloridaroses.co...

And this is what Nelson's has to say about fortuniana.

https://nelsonsfloridaroses.co...
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Nov 9, 2023 11:22 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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Here's the information on Fortuniana rootstock, from the Nelson's Florida Roses site. If you want old garden roses, they do work well, and are pretty disease resistant but have smaller flowers, and bloom less often than the hybrid tea roses grafted to Fortuniana.
https://nelsonsfloridaroses.co...
Don't be tempted by those cheap, bare root roses you will see at the box stores and grocery stores, they simply will not last in Florida. Nelson's and other good wholesale growers graft the best varieties to the Fortuniana rootstocks, so they don't have that many but what they sell are good ones. They're pricey but worth every penny.

I got a 'Tahitian Sunset' for my birthday this year, and it has bloomed almost non-stop since I got it. I've had to pot it up twice (not growing in-ground because the sunny areas of my yard change during the year and I need to be able to move them) It went from a little spindly 16in. bush to now over 7ft tall. One round of bloom had over 22 roses blooming at once!
Thumb of 2023-11-10/dyzzypyxxy/3d65e5

All the roses I've grown do struggle a bit in the summer heat here, but then they come on strong again in fall, and bloom like crazy right through winter into spring again. I move mine to a spot with morning sun and afternoon shade in the summer so they aren't quite so stressed by the relentless heat and strong, blazing hot sun. Hot nights make the new growth a little spindly and the flowers smaller, too. I have an old bush of 'Gold Medal' that actually seems to go semi-dormant in summer. It's just ramping up to a second new flush of blooms now.
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Nov 15, 2023 5:17 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jane Joy
Florida (Zone 10a)
Hi
dyzzypyxxy said: Here's the information on Fortuniana rootstock, from the Nelson's Florida Roses site. If you want old garden roses, they do work well, and are pretty disease resistant but have smaller flowers, and bloom less often than the hybrid tea roses grafted to Fortuniana.
https://nelsonsfloridaroses.co...
Don't be tempted by those cheap, bare root roses you will see at the box stores and grocery stores, they simply will not last in Florida. Nelson's and other good wholesale growers graft the best varieties to the Fortuniana rootstocks, so they don't have that many but what they sell are good ones. They're pricey but worth every penny.

I got a 'Tahitian Sunset' for my birthday this year, and it has bloomed almost non-stop since I got it. I've had to pot it up twice (not growing in-ground because the sunny areas of my yard change during the year and I need to be able to move them) It went from a little spindly 16in. bush to now over 7ft tall. One round of bloom had over 22 roses blooming at once!
Thumb of 2023-11-10/dyzzypyxxy/3d65e5

All the roses I've grown do struggle a bit in the summer heat here, but then they come on strong again in fall, and bloom like crazy right through winter into spring again. I move mine to a spot with morning sun and afternoon shade in the summer so they aren't quite so stressed by the relentless heat and strong, blazing hot sun. Hot nights make the new growth a little spindly and the flowers smaller, too. I have an old bush of 'Gold Medal' that actually seems to go semi-dormant in summer. It's just ramping up to a second new flush of blooms now.


Wow! Thanks for the advice. That rose is beautiful, I will definitely add that variety to my list. it is comforting to see another zone 10 person who is having pretty good success with roses
Bye
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