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Dec 15, 2023 9:43 AM CST
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Hi all
Is anyone growing Lilium sulphureum? If you are willing to share seed. Please contact me by tree mail to see if we can work out a trade.
Eric
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Dec 15, 2023 10:48 AM CST
Name: Luka
Croatia (Zone 9a)
Köppen Climate Zone Csa
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I have a lot of sulphureums but this year was first time flowering for me. If they survive and flower next year I will try to get seeds. It's one of my projects.
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Dec 15, 2023 11:32 AM CST
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Thanks for the offer. Lucius I know you grow species from your posts. Do you grow any hybrids?
If you do what lilium divisions?
Eric
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Dec 15, 2023 2:29 PM CST
Name: Luka
Croatia (Zone 9a)
Köppen Climate Zone Csa
Lilies Bulbs Seed Starter Xeriscape Container Gardener Sempervivums
Enjoys or suffers hot summers Garden Photography Cat Lover Keeper of Poultry Hybridizer Region: Europe
I had many hybrids in the past (mostly OT and T) but my focus is only sp. for the last 2-3 years (and future). I don't have enough space for everything. I had some trumpet hybrids this year (misslabeled as sp.) which I grew from seed and I also made 3 new ones this year. I sent some seeds in US to one member. Smiling
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Dec 15, 2023 4:10 PM CST
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I know the feeling about wanting to grow more plants than you have room. I'd love to spend more time and space on species. In the 1940s there was a grower of lilium that had L sulphureum in the garden in the same town. My zone is claimed to be too cold for sulphureum by there is photo evidence that it is possible. So for now I'm mostly growing martagon hybrids and blackheart Aurelians hybrids from seed. Currently building up gene pool of both.
I have brownii, sargentiae and regale all growing from seed. They are a few years from producing seed.
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Dec 15, 2023 7:02 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
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I believe L. sulphureum is quite cold hardy variable. That wonderous yellow with green back tepals that Steve G. grows is one of the less cold hardy ones, I think.

20+ years ago, I grew a trumpet from Chen Yi, sp.(15). I had determined it must be either sargentiae or sulphureum. Back then, ID info was scarce, and the only defining characteristic was the presence (or not) of basal stamen pubescence. Since I was a newbie then and had nothing to compare with (thus my observation was quite nebulous), lacking any other info, I "decided" it must be sargentiae, based on the fact that sulphureum is suppose to be so much more cold tender, and certainly could not survive my Minnesota zone 4a(back then). Since then, the pubescence characteristic has been proven unreliable.

I think it was just last year, Luka and I were talking and he, along with new info he had found and him talking with a Chinese professor Gao, easily convinced me that it was actually sulphureum that I had. The frost goes way deeper in my soil than yours with all that snow, Eric. However, who knows the provenance and actual cold hardiness of whatever clones you are able to procure.

In my earlier years of lily growing, the species was always very robust, although never getting more than 5-7 flowers. Foolishly, I saw no reason to grow more from bulbils, and one year, it just disappeared. I still lament its passing (along with others).

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Dec 15, 2023 10:37 PM CST
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That's beautiful Rick.
I had a L henryi from chen yi that was doing fantastic for years. Multiple bulbs then one year just gone. Hated to lose that plant should have scaled it and put to different places in the gardens
I did learn a lesson from it.
Eric
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Dec 16, 2023 3:24 AM CST
Name: Luka
Croatia (Zone 9a)
Köppen Climate Zone Csa
Lilies Bulbs Seed Starter Xeriscape Container Gardener Sempervivums
Enjoys or suffers hot summers Garden Photography Cat Lover Keeper of Poultry Hybridizer Region: Europe
Eric, according to Gao sargentiae is also form of sulphureum (northernmost) and will be merged with sulphureum in the future (synonym). So you already have sulphureum. Sticking tongue out
I have many plants of Steves yellow form sulphureum and I want to cross-pollinate it with normal pale form in hope to get more full yellow seedlings. He tried to get seeds in his garden but they never mature in his climate. Should be possible here. Smiling
Edit: sulphureum on my profile photo is the one I flowered this summer. Very big flowers and very nice scent. They have a lot of yellow inside and are greenish-pale pink outside.
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