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Dec 17, 2023 1:42 PM CST
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All the photos in Stonecrop (Graptopetalum filiferum) are not Graptopetalum filiferum.
They are xGraptoveria 'Silver Star' which is a hybrid of G. filiferum and E. agavoides.
They should be moved here: Graptoveria (XGraptoveria 'Silver Star')

As a good rule of thumb here, 'Silver Star' has shorter terminal hairs than G. filiferum, and the leaves are thicker (an agavoides trait). In addition G. filiferum has a flat, tight rosette with 75- 100 leaves while 'Silver Star' has a looser rosette with fewer leaves.

For further reference please see:
https://www.crassulaceae.ch/de...
https://www.crassulaceae.ch/de...

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Dec 18, 2023 10:02 PM CST
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I agree about this observation. Apparently the hybrid is a whole lot more common than the species in cultivation. Those crassulaceae.ch pages are well worth visiting, for the curious. They also include flower pictures (which the images in the database do not). I think all those images need to be moved to the listing for the hybrid.
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Dec 19, 2023 9:22 AM CST
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The images have been moved. Thank you, moderators. Thank You!
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Dec 30, 2023 3:48 PM CST
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I found some images Graptopetalum page that are not Graptopetalums at all. These are xGraptosedum 'Ghosty'.










These are xGraptoveria 'Fred Ives'



This is an Echeveria, to me it looks like E. prolifica, but I would like to hear a second opinion.


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Dec 30, 2023 4:08 PM CST
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I'm moving mine, seems to be a lot of confusion.
The thread "xGraptosedum Ghosty" in Photo of Ghost Plant (XGraptosedum 'Ghosty')

And wondering about @valleylynn's comment on Ghost Plant (XGraptosedum 'Ghosty')
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Moved those other 3 to xGraptoveria 'Fred Ives'
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I'm okay with whatever is decided. I am no expert on these.
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I do not recognize the plant in the last picture. We can use the genus (Echeveria) or species (E. prolĂ­fica) entries there, whatever you're reasonably sure about. Once that one is taken care of, all these images will be sorted. Thank you for spotting these images in the wrong place.
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valleylynn said: I'm okay with whatever is decided. I am no expert on these.
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You don't have any images being questioned, I merely tagged you (see my post above) as you had a comment in XGraptosedum 'Ghosty' entry and I wanted to see if it's relevant.
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Dec 30, 2023 9:54 PM CST
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Just a quick shout out to @ge1836 and @Belovedhoneygirl letting them know their images are being moved.
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