Here is another tree that I need identified. I have an idea but not sure.

Pretty....
Something from the juniper group...

Thank you very much.
It really has me stumped and has for the 5+ years we have lived here.

The needles make me think juniper, the bark and long branches make me think more along the redwood family.

The tree is on the south west corner of our house, our house was actually designed by Frank Loyd Wright, one of his signature things was to often put a tree of significance on the south west corner of a house.

Also concerned with how close it is to the house

Edit: I have been looking and there are definitely some in the juniper family that look similar but haven't found anything exact. Hoping I can get an exact id on this one.

stone said: Pretty....
Something from the juniper group...

It looks much more like a False cypress (Chamaecyparis type). But obviously not a dwarf type that are much more common.

Juniper cones remain solid.
http://www.pinetum.org/cones/J...

False cypress cones are solid, but will pop open when ripe.
http://www.pinetum.org/cones/C...

All the wood in this house is actually cypress, so some type of cypress/false cypress would make sense.

I am wondering if there is somewhere around here that I could take a branch to get a positive id on it.

Leftwood said: It looks much more like a False cypress (Chamaecyparis type). But obviously not a dwarf type that are much more common.

Juniper cones remain solid.
http://www.pinetum.org/cones/J...

False cypress cones are solid, but will pop open when ripe.
http://www.pinetum.org/cones/C...

Examining the berry-like cones should tell you. Notice the pattern of how the false cypress cones break apart in my link. Although junipers do not open, you might notice there are bud scale markings, like a leafy tree's bud before it opens. The two types of cones have very different patterns.

Definitely in the cypress family
Hopefully these pictures are helpful. I am dying to compare to the pics in the link you sent.















The thing the keeps throwing me is when I see something I think matches the bark is totally different



I don't know if the long sweeping branches is a characteristic of this tree

I am thinking some type of Lawson cypress, Many in that group look similar.

Right. I'm afraid that's about all I can say to help you in your quest. Most of the members of the Cypress family don't grow in cold Minnesota, so I am not that familiar with them. But to clarify, technically junipers are also in the cypress family (Cupressaceae), as are true cypress and false cypress. This is why characteristics like the bark can be similar (because the are!).

Leftwood said: Right. I'm afraid that's about all I can say to help you in your quest. Most of the members of the Cypress family don't grow in cold Minnesota, so I am not that familiar with them. But to clarify, technically junipers are also in the cypress family (Cupressaceae), as are true cypress and false cypress. This is why characteristics like the bark can be similar (because the are!).

I know what you mean, I am on the Ohio Michigan line so that also limits the types of tree that it could be.

I don't know what it is, but I have to say it's just beautiful.

The trunk looks just like the bald cypress down here....
But... A bald cypress wouldn't have green through the winter...

Funny, when I looked at the trunk bark, Bald cypress also came to mind. But none of the other characteristics fit.

Leftwood said: Funny, when I looked at the trunk bark, Bald cypress also came to mind. But none of the other characteristics fit.

I know, it seems to lose about half of the needles in the winter but nothing like a bald cypress.

I have some many trees and plants on our property that has me stumped lol

My first impulse was to say that this was a Thuja plicata, but it doesn't have the "spreading" scales on the cones.

That leads me to believe that this could very well be Chamaecyparis obtusa (or whatever it might be renamed) - Hinoki Falsecypress.

HotRod26 could help us. Clip off some representative pieces of the foliage, branches, and the remainder cones. Bring them inside in good light, let them dry off, and then take some clear images of top side and undersides of each part.

One of the good ways of separating some of these remarkably similar conifers is by observing the underside of their foliage (leaves, needles, awns, name your botanical term of favor). See the Oregon State University link here for Thuja plicata:

https://landscapeplants.oregon...

Frank Lloyd Wright could very well have recommended this species for that site. It would be fun to see an image of that whole tree with your house.

I am wondering if there is somewhere around here that I could take a branch to get a positive id on it.

How 'bout the Toledo Botanical Gardens? What a resource! They have Chamaecyparis obtusa in their accessions, as well as quite a few other conifers with which to compare. Horticulturists at such institutions are often quite helpful with interested citizens. It would be a great place to learn about a lot of other plants you could successfully grow in Toledo.

And, now I want to go there...