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Jul 23, 2014 9:02 AM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
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Does Palatine have the new list up? I looked a couple of days ago & they were still in teh "sold out" phase...
Roses are one of my passions! Just opened, my Etsy shop (to fund my rose hobby)! http://www.etsy.com/shop/Tweet...
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Jul 23, 2014 5:05 PM CST
Name: Meredith
New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
Region: New Hampshire Cat Lover Butterflies Hummingbirder Keeper of Poultry Roses
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They have a lot that I may want to try! I just looked and most of the stuff says sold out. I think
I saw someone say they open the next years catalog in Sept.
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Jul 23, 2014 5:33 PM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
Charter ATP Member Beekeeper Garden Ideas: Master Level Roses Ponds Permaculture
Peonies Lilies Irises Dog Lover Daylilies Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Meredith, keep watching here. We send up flares the instant they open the list for orders. (almost the instant...I put my order in, THEN tell the others)
Whistling Hilarious!
Remember that children, marriages, and flower gardens reflect the kind of care they get.
H. Jackson Brown, Jr.
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Jul 23, 2014 9:01 PM CST
Name: Meredith
New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
Region: New Hampshire Cat Lover Butterflies Hummingbirder Keeper of Poultry Roses
Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Daylilies Bee Lover Irises Seed Starter
Lol, cute ;)
Hilarious!
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Jul 24, 2014 1:41 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Andi
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10b)
Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap
My climbing mini, Work of Art, is setting a bud while still in its moving pot. I am tempted to put it in the tiger garden, but afraid it may be too close to the road. Although the garden is bordered by a short rock wall and a strip of grass, it may get buried by the snow plow if we have another winter like this one. I am not worried about the snow, but the salt and gravel may be problematic. Larger roses could be placed in that bed at a safe didtance from the road.

There is a place along a sunny walkway where work of Art and a plant hook for it to climb may be a better location.

Decisions, decisions.
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Jul 24, 2014 5:24 PM CST
Name: Meredith
New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
Region: New Hampshire Cat Lover Butterflies Hummingbirder Keeper of Poultry Roses
Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Daylilies Bee Lover Irises Seed Starter
I vote away from the road. Only because I have a lot of bad luck with my plants by the road.
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Jul 26, 2014 4:08 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Andi
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10b)
Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap
I have already been trying to get a plant hook (for work of art to eventually climb) elsewhere in the garden. Work of Art and my first tiger Lily were blooming at the same time. I didn't like them together.

I have room deeper in the bed for roses which would be better locations.

The front of that flower bed would be better suited for easy annuals or perennials. I presoaked and sowed a few perennials in that bed. A couple are finally germinating a pushing thru the soil/mulch.

Thanks so much for your help with this quest!
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Jul 26, 2014 8:48 PM CST
Name: Meredith
New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
Region: New Hampshire Cat Lover Butterflies Hummingbirder Keeper of Poultry Roses
Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Daylilies Bee Lover Irises Seed Starter
I looked up 'Work of Art' I like that one! I can see how you might not like it with orange tiger lilies though! I have Red Monarda near my Coral and Lilac Daylily bed and it really clashes but I like having the Monarda there so I can watch the hummers go to it, so I just try to keep it out of my garden shots. Trick photography ;) Sticking tongue out
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Jul 27, 2014 1:37 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Andi
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10b)
Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap
I am fussy about colors. A lot of my plant labels got lost when I moved, but I have to get things in the ground. I will probably end up moving some things eventually, but that is how it goes. Clashing colors are less hideous than the current pot ghetto.

My work of art didn't get as big as the pictures, but it is young. The challenge is to find a place where I can sink a hook and plant a rose - I live in rock central!
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Aug 6, 2014 1:26 PM CST
Name: Keith
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Zinnias Plays in the sandbox Roses Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Organic Gardener
Region: New York Native Plants and Wildflowers Lilies Seed Starter Spiders! Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Skiekitty said:New Year is also a great orange. Picante if you can find it. I second Vavoom.. it's got a good orange-juice color. Here's some of my oranges

Charisma


Chris Evert


WildFire


GingerSnap


Orange Velvet


Picante


Sundowner


Mardi Gras
Rose (Rosa 'Mardi Gras')

Oranges & Lemons


Tequila Sunrise


Vavoom


Adobe Sunrise


New Year


I'm sure I have others that I can't remember.. orange being my second favorite rose color. Like Playboy, Portlandia, and others that look orange mostly, but aren't classified as "orange" or are orange blends.


Those are all stunning, what I wish they made was orange with black stripes like a tiger or black with orange stripes for Halloween, probably more likely to see those than a true blue rose.
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Aug 6, 2014 9:04 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Andi
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10b)
Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap
I love them all, need a bigger yard....and a slave to dig holes to plant everything and to lean my house so that I have more time to garden....
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Aug 7, 2014 9:06 AM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Salvias Garden Procrastinator Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Andi - Do you have big rocks (6"+) in your yard or little rocks (2-3")? If you have little, maybe you should invest in a small auger? Big rocks, invest in some hunky dood. Whistling Whistling Whistling Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
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Aug 7, 2014 8:50 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Andi
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10b)
Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap
Almost every house here has ornamental boulders and/or rock walls around their planting beds , driveways or yards. We don't have standard garbage pick up. If we did, I am certain that they wouldn't take rocks on bulk trash day. If you listed them on craigslist, everyone would think it was a joke.

It is hard to sink a Shepard's hook or a trellis support without hitting rocks over and over. Digging holes big enough to plant roses is considered "eccentric". Digging and perk testing the holes is worthy of neighborhood gossip.

Toni, 6" rocks are little rocks. I will take some rock pictures tomorrow for you. Guaranteed to hit at least one rock at least 6-8" digging. That would be a happy day! Actually, any day that the rocks I hit are small enough for me to safely move by myself without a moving truck is a good gardening day. a bad gardening day is when every place I dig is a rock to big to remove even with a bit of help. Depending on drainage, I either plant something less fussy than a rose or place a stepping stone in that location.

The 2-3" rocks help the drainage in clay areas. They are my friends. Areas around trees have several inches of good dirt from the decomposing leaves. I have some pockets of good soil in between the tree stumps.

Any hole dug ends up needing amended fill. First, to improve the soil quality. Second to fill in space formerly occupied by big rocks.

Think extra large bean bag chair sized rocks. Those are the huge ones. I work around those.

An auger won't cut it, maybe a really sturdy rototiller. (I am keeping watch on craitgslist). A backhoe would be better.
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Aug 8, 2014 4:37 AM CST
Name: Teri
Mount Bethel, PA
Annuals Seed Starter Region: Pennsylvania Region: Northeast US Region: Mid-Atlantic Lilies
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I live not far from Andi and have the same rock/soil problems. We have made raised gardens by putting corrugate down and dumping amended topsoil over it. Last year the town offered loads of topsoil free!! We certainly took advantage of that. Of course we had plenty of rock to encircle the new beds.
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Aug 8, 2014 9:08 AM CST
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Name: Andi
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10b)
Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap
Free topsoil, I'm jealous. Buying "dirt" gets expensive.

If you are going to garden in the mountains, you are going to have rocks and tree roots.
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Aug 8, 2014 9:45 AM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Salvias Garden Procrastinator Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Xeriscape Region: Colorado Roses Cat Lover The WITWIT Badge
Holy guacamole. That's not gardening, that's torture! My back is killing me just READING about trying to dig around all those rocks! I'm lucky in my area. Our native soil out here is sand. Sand sand sand. Like sandy type sand. But I have 1' of "top soil" on top of the sand (read: clay) that was put down when my area was developed. Some of the new neighborhoods they're only putting down like 6" of top soil on top of the native sand! Nothing's gonna grow in that!

Extra Large bean bag chairs /=/ rocks. Those = boulders.

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Aug 18, 2014 4:28 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Salvias Garden Procrastinator Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Xeriscape Region: Colorado Roses Cat Lover The WITWIT Badge
My Vavoom! & Chris Evert are BRIGHT this time...

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But New Year is blooming weird! Should be MUCH more orange, not a hot red-y orange color...

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Roses are one of my passions! Just opened, my Etsy shop (to fund my rose hobby)! http://www.etsy.com/shop/Tweet...
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Aug 18, 2014 8:07 PM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
Charter ATP Member Beekeeper Garden Ideas: Master Level Roses Ponds Permaculture
Peonies Lilies Irises Dog Lover Daylilies Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Maybe colors are more saturated when the soil has more rainfall?
Remember that children, marriages, and flower gardens reflect the kind of care they get.
H. Jackson Brown, Jr.
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Aug 20, 2014 11:19 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Andi
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10b)
Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap
Weather, rainfall, seasons have been odd this year. The roses may feel as out of sync as i do lately.

I am trying not to get discouraged with my gardening challenges. No blooms worth mentioning, but less weeds and rocks.
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Aug 20, 2014 12:20 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Salvias Garden Procrastinator Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Xeriscape Region: Colorado Roses Cat Lover The WITWIT Badge
Andi - If you're missing out on the weeds, I'd be happy to send you some weird wild morning glory that has NO flower of interest, but, my goodness, does it send out the SEEDS!! Holy guacamole does it send out a BAZILLION seeds!! That & some bindweed if you're missing the weeds that terribly much... Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing I swear I can pull every single bindweed in the front yard today and by Saturday it'll look like I've never weeded the front yard ever. Grumbling Grumbling Grumbling
Roses are one of my passions! Just opened, my Etsy shop (to fund my rose hobby)! http://www.etsy.com/shop/Tweet...

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