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Oct 18, 2014 10:27 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Oh...yeah I heard there are some Plumeria types that are not quick to bloom.

The one I have seems an easy one, Plumeria 'Celadine'...it is still in bloom right now, though sporadic, must be the fluctuating temps, but it sure is a vigorous grower, lots of leaves and grew twice in height, and from a single tip now into 3 tips this year. At least it bloomed even in a container, and with such limited light. The blooms came in late September, I thought I will not see a lot of action bloom-wise with such a small window of time left before the cooler temps arrive in Fall. The awkward position of my garden can only accord it at the most 3 to 4 hours of light, not even continuous direct sun, but it managed. It did take me 3 attempts/3 years to finally get it right, almost gave up on plumeies really. I have to go against common instructions of not watering a lot..I figured with our 6 months rainless area, very low humidity and intense summer heat, it will appreciate more to daily watering during summer. And it certainly did!

I have one other Plumie that did not bloom, just leaves also, and did not grow any taller either, may have to adjust next season its container size.
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Oct 19, 2014 1:00 PM CST
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Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Tarev, Your Sampaguita story from Philippines reminds me similar experience in Taiwan ~45 years ago. People sold the still-folded, fragrant white flowers of, I believe (if it's true jasmine), Sampaguita in the street right in the busy traffic. People buy and wear them every where (in hair, pocket, car, purse..) spreading their wonderful aroma to every corner. It's my long long time memory even way b4 my jasmine confed experience in Petaluma 15, 20 years ago. I hope you have some pic of your blooming Plumeria 'Celadine' (another name?) and show here for at least filling some of my visual hunger, if not scent quest. Thanks
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Oct 19, 2014 5:33 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Yup! That would be the same jasmine Fiat Big Grin It is a true jasmine. An all occasion flower, happy times, celebrations, sympathy, ornamental..it is used in many ways. And so cheap too, since it is widely grown all over there. A cottage industry as well for the Sampaguita garland makers, a livelihood for the vendors, on the sidewalk and on the streets.

Oh, I just remembered, in my last trip to Manila early this year..all sorts of things sold right in the middle of the street, amazing ability for the street vendors to avoid collision..from face towels, crackers, bottled water, cigarettes, gums and one time I saw a guy selling bonsai plants running up and down the street. But that is life there..challenge is an everyday routine, a way of life. ..oops...reminiscing again!

You can see lots of photos of my Plumeria 'Celadine' in my thread at the Plumeria forum. It is also the photo in my avatar right now. That thread shows the challenges I met growing Plumerias and finally my success after 3 attempts. Big Grin
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Mar 9, 2015 7:17 PM CST
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Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Ok, I am back. Now the winter is over (hope it won't return unseasonally). So I move my jasmine confed back out to my patio and it looks like this:
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Just like Cinta described: it looks like half-dead! if compared to the one I got last summer. Now I wonder if I wrongly repotted it last year? See some of its roots are out of soil surface? I think I put too much soil at bottom and made its root ball up over the pot rim (I didn't know at the time that to keep the soil top 2-3" under the container rim). Should I repot it again now? Please advise. Thanks
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Mar 10, 2015 4:15 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL @--`--,----- 🌹 (Zone 8b)
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That looks great, still alive! I would wait until it's regained some vigor before repotting. You should soon be able to know for sure which twigs are dead. Cutting them near the trunk would improve the appearance.
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Mar 10, 2015 6:31 PM CST
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Name: Fiat
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Thanks, Tiffany, for the response and advice. Hope to be able to know "which twigs are dead" later... then to have a remove surgery to save the plant... and repot it.
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Mar 11, 2015 7:18 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL @--`--,----- 🌹 (Zone 8b)
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Happy to share info. ;) Once it starts leafing out vigorously again, whichever twigs/stems that don't produce any foliage are dead. Trim each one where it branches away from the main or secondary branch, leaving as small of a stump as possible without cutting into the stem or branch to which the dead twig is connected. You can always cut more but can't replace anything once cut, so if you're not sure, start by making little cuts until there's nothing left but live branches. The plant could probably care less if you do this or not, it's for the visual appreciation of people. If you don't want to do it, that's fine too.

Repotting is easier with a helper. One person would hold the plant upside down, with open hands on either side of the main trunk while the other person pulls the pot up and off of the root ball. From there, it's a matter of addressing what you find. Woody entities can, over time, make a 'pancake' of roots at the bottom of the pot. If you find that, it can be chopped off by laying the plant sideways and chopping it off with a shovel, pruners, saw. Once you get that off, the old soil should crumble away. It looks like it would probably fit back in the same pot after that, but impossible to say w/o seeing the roots & the size of them after some trimming & old soil removal.

Whatever pot it goes into, fill around the roots, so the trunk is emerging from the same point as it did before, but don't pack tightly. Tiny air pockets throughout the pot are good, and helpful for avoiding rotting roots. Try to sprinkle gently the first few times you water so the soil doesn't compact from the force of gushing water. A gentle rain is awesome, if the timing works.
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Mar 11, 2015 9:48 AM CST
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Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Oh, so much thanks Tiffany. I really need such helpful and valuable info and sharing from experience just like you offered at right time. We got rainfall today (but none forecast for at least next 5, 6 days), so repotting may go until end of March or early April.
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Mar 11, 2015 10:19 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL @--`--,----- 🌹 (Zone 8b)
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Happy to share info. Pass it on when you get a chance! Your plan sound good to me. Vigorously growing plants recover much more easily from a disturbance like repotting/a little trimming of stems or roots.
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Mar 11, 2015 1:01 PM CST
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Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Thank again for the tip/reminder, Tiffany.
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