That Callisia fragrans sure looks very interesting.. Maybe I will try it too Fiat...but will wait for Spring. In the meantime, I will read more about it.

Ok, here is my initial plan on growing Star Jasmine (or Confederate):

1. Source: A. Sandy's nursery online -- 4" pot for $6 + $8 S/H; B. Brighterblooms.com -- 1 gal for $18 + S/H; C. local HD -- 1 gal for $6 ==== go for the cheapest one?
2. to place it (in pot) in patio for receiving sun light (close to the floor window of private room, so to bring in fragrance); bring inside in winter if necessary.
3. use trellis and trimming to control growth.
4. Question: Does it need immediate re-potting to a bigger pot? How big? Need type of cacti mix soil? How big the trellis is needed?
I am looking to do like this one:


Any advice, comment, idea, correction are appreciated. Tks

I live in the south, and many plants that people in northern zones grow as indoor house plants are considered outdoor only landscape plants here. Star Jasmine (Trachelospermum jasminoides) can climb 30 to 40 feet so it would need a lot of pruning to keep it in check.

Star Jasmine (Jasminum laurifolium var. laurifolium) on the other hand can attain heights to @ 20 feet but can be pruned to a more bushy, shrub-like shape/form and size.

fiat said:Ok, here is my initial plan on growing Star Jasmine (or Confederate):

1. Source: A. Sandy's nursery online -- 4" pot for $6 + $8 S/H; B. Brighterblooms.com -- 1 gal for $18 + S/H; C. local HD -- 1 gal for $6 ==== go for the cheapest one?
2. to place it (in pot) in patio for receiving sun light (close to the floor window of private room, so to bring in fragrance); bring inside in winter if necessary.
3. use trellis and trimming to control growth.
4. Question: Does it need immediate re-potting to a bigger pot? How big? Need type of cacti mix soil? How big the trellis is needed?
I am looking to do like this one:


Any advice, comment, idea, correction are appreciated. Tks

1. I always go for the cheaper one. Younger plants do better for me because they grow up in my environment vs older plant that has grown up in a greenhouse.

2. Good Plan
3. Another good plan. But if you are buying the smaller plant you will not have to cut for 3 yrs.
4. It is not a cactus I grew mine in a good potting soil because the plant like to be moist. Dry up and it will die. When I get new plants I do not repot for a month. I let it get use to my environment, treatment and recover from shipping.
How tall do you want it to be? I would go a little taller than the final height you want maybe 6". You can even purchase bamboo sticks and wrap the limbs around the bamboo.

That is the only suggestions I can give you how I handled mine.

Lin: I didn't checked that Confederate can reach/grow considerably higher than Star. So maybe choosing star is on the safe/comfortable side, yet I was kind leaning to the flower shape of confed though. Just wonder if there is significant difference in their fragrance (I can't id the one in my memory, but most likely it was confed covering a good big section of a tall fence)?

Cinta: How thankful to receive your advice that came from your actual experience/handling on the plant.

1. Confirmed my previous mistake/false idea: the bigger, the better. I got to choose from in a big nursery for some boston ferns on sale ($10 for a 10" hanging pot). I picked two largest ones there! and you know afterward ...

2. checked

3. How small/young is a "smaller" plant? Is 1 gal pot considered small?

4. Ok, no cacti mix but good potting soil. (I read that the soil need be of good drainage and kept moist, yet not saggy. How difficult to maintain that!)
Confirmed, I'll not repot for a month. But how big the new pot I need? (assuming get 1-gal pot plant) I will decide how big/tall the trellis (or bamboo) I need after that (by your guideline).

Thanks

In my opinion the Confederate Jasmine is much, much more fragrant, and the heavenly fragrance is very obvious during the day as well as at night! With the Star Jasmine that I have in my yard, apparently the fragrance is only detected at night; I've never noticed even a hint of scent during the day.

My mother used to have an adverse reaction to the Confederate Jasmine; I remember when I was real young, she could never sleep with the windows open when the jasmine was in bloom because she said the scent was so overpowering that she couldn't breathe. I've had the same thing happen with some Hoya plants when I've had them indoors. The Hoya blooms attract night pollinators and the fragrance is really strong in the evening and at night. I remember a few years ago I had to move four hoya plants out to the back porch in the middle of the night because the fragrance was so overpowering ... beautiful fragrance but just too strong with so many blooms at once.

I have two star in the bird room and I can smell them when I go in the area to feed. That is amazing you can not smell them in the daytime. Even when mine were outside I could smell them on the deck in the daytime. Hmmmm that makes you wonder doesn't it. Have you heard of people calling the Star Jasmine the Royal Jasmine? I purchased a Star from Hirt and a Royal from Logee and they are identical plants. I can not help but wonder sometimes who names these plants and do you really get what you buy when you are new at purchasing a particular plant. I have researched Jasmine for years and I still can not find one bit of difference in these two plants I have.

That is like Star being called Confederate and vice versa....the flowers are completely different if you take a real close look and compare them. To me they are two different plants and yet so many articles I have read over the years refer to them as both names. In my travels, the ones I have looked at are different. The star petals are very thin and very flimsy and the confederate are shorter and wider and look firm ...am I crazy or did anyone else notice that difference in them.

I just trimmed my Maid of Orleans plants today and stuck a bunch of cuttings in water to start the rooting process. I have been raising them for years also and when I do not have time to plant the cuttings, I stick them in water. It works for me, at least until I have time to plant. They do root in water.

To be honest I never pay much attention to the one planted in my yard, it was here when we moved here three years ago and I had my husband transplant it to a different location this past spring. I was told that it's Jasminum nitidum; it hasn't grown much in height since we've been here, staying at around 3 1/2 feet tall and 4 feet wide. It could be slower growing because of the location, it only gets a little water now and then unless it rains.

Here is my Star Jasmine (Nitidum)and if you want to really go crazy, look up Star Jasmine at TopTropicals.com.






Here are some of the babies I grow..they bloom very young too.

JB said:Here is my Star Jasmine (Nitidum)and if you want to really go crazy, look up Star Jasmine at TopTropicals.com.






Here are some of the babies I grow..they bloom very young too.

Are you growing them to sell or are you just trying to get babies ready for the garden?

Cinta, check out JB's links in the small print below her post. There's a link to her cubits store and her e-bay store.

Oh thank you. I was wondering why she was rooting so many of them.

I am trying to think of a good ground cover for Fiat.

Fiat, what do you think about something growing at the bottom of your Jasmine.

I like to grow group pots. So when one thing is not blooming something else is blooming or something has a pretty color. Do you like group pots?

JB, Thank you for showing your lovely stars. I think I am pretty sure confed and star are same kind of jasmine (actually they are not real jasmine), only have they different flowers just like you stated and maybe a bit different in their leaf shape (my findings from looking pictures all over internet). I have no preference in their looking, but do mind any fragrance difference, e.g., like Lin mentioned, but seems to be conflict with yours..

Thank you, Lin & JB for sharing your Star experience!!

Oh Cinta, Thank you for your thought. I have seen some posters here showing pic of big pots (at least in the pic they look big) growing different plants in them, but they are all baby plants (buds). I am just thinking about growing star or confed into one like JB's (maybe a bit bigger). (What size is that white pot? Pls tell, JB.) Never thought about "growing something at the bottom of jasmine"? Can't imagine such a setup of group pots. Will it need a super big pot for multi matured plants? Any example, photo?

Oh how I want to be a seasoned, sophisticated, and highly knowledgeable grower like you guys! But I am not, just a beginner. So bear with me if you will.

I am set to get one jasmine (hope a confed, but will take a star in 1-gal pot) from local HD this weekend (will be 100 F). Sure there will be many questions/problems after that, but I am counting on you guys for help. I know I shall not be afraid.

Thanks

I would hold back Fiat, let this triple digit temps pass. I try not to get plants when it is forecast to be very hot, whether or not I will grow them indoors or outdoors, succulents or not. From what I have experienced here, no shade is comfortable enough for them, with that blanket dry heat we get. And if you put them indoors, with our AC's cranking, you just shock the plant with the change.

It is different with the established plants that have acclimated already, they can take it. But the younger ones, they suffer a lot. Just my two cents. That is why oftentimes, it is best to start new plants in Spring, temps more cool and warmly comfortable later.

fiat said:

Oh Cinta, Thank you for your thought. I have seen some posters here showing pic of big pots (at least in the pic they look big) growing different plants in them, but they are all baby plants (buds). I am just thinking about growing star or confed into one like JB's (maybe a bit bigger). (What size is that white pot? Pls tell, JB.) Never thought about "growing something at the bottom of jasmine"? Can't imagine such a setup of group pots. Will it need a super big pot for multi matured plants? Any example, photo?

Thanks

The plants I have that I added fragrance companion plants to are good for outside. I am not sure what you could use for indoor fragrance. Maybe Trav can help more than I can for your climate and what you could use for indoors like the Orchid that was suggested is fragrant.

I do the fragrance back up under planting because I like the fragrance on the patio all summer.

I have a gardenia that I planted Petunias. They are very fragrant and the gardenia blooms Late spring and early summer. The rest of the summer I have the fragrance of the petunia.


I have variegated Ginger that does not bloom until late summer so I have fragrant bulbs planted in that pot.


This is a houseplant that is not hardy so I planted surprise lilies in the pot and they are fragrant.


This orchid is not fragrant but I mounted it on driftwood and put the driftwood in the pot with this plant because the leaves of the plant is so pretty. When the Orchid was not in bloom I still had something pretty in the pot.



This is the plant before I put a piece of wood in the pot and mounted the orchid above for beauty in the winter inside the house. But the orchid is not fragrant.

I just thought of something this variegated Hoya would probably be a good match both like the same conditions of light and moisture. Double the pleasure pretty leaves and fragrance.

Cinta said:I just thought of something this variegated Hoya would probably be a good match both like the same conditions of light and moisture. Double the pleasure pretty leaves and fragrance.

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Oh I have that one, Hoya carnosa 'Krimson Queen'..though have not been able to make it bloom yet. But it ably survived winter outdoors as long as near the house, so it is a keeper for me During summer I have to spray the leaves or water deeply from time to time. Much as I do not want to spray the leaves of succulents, it seems to prefer that during very hot days.

Yes it likes moisture and so does the jasmine. I thought Fiat wants his plants in the house for fragrance. I was trying to think of what he could grow in the house for fragrance.

The Jasmine would grow and bloom indoors, Ordhids and the Hoya. I do not know what else would work.

@Cinta, your plants and combinations are very attractive. I love seeing what people can do with houseplants.

I hate to weed and here on the Christmas Tree Farm we have very little space for outside gardening, so that suits me fine. We do have an entire field of different varieties of daffodils that in the Spring is not only a lovely fragrance on my South deck, but the beauty of those particular flowers is such a joy after these miserable winters we have had lately. I love that field in the Spring and it is just a few feet away from my deck. Also, we used to cut and sell them wholesale to the farmers market and now that we do not, it is even more beautiful and they last so long. Of course when they are finished then there is a field of just plain grass.

I was born and raised in Lancaster County, Pa where we had acres of formal gardens at my house and an amazing collection of houseplants. I am sure that is where my love for houseplants and container planting began because as I said I hate to weed and when I was a young girl, our gardeners were drafted and went to fight WWII and that left me and my family to care for all the gardens...which we did of course. One of my favorite fragrant shrubs for a garden is the old fashion lilac...now they have several hybrids that are smaller and can be used in deck containers but I never saw any that could be used as a house plant. I wonder why since their fragrance is so nice, if of course you like that type aroma. Did not mean to get off subject here but I got to thinking of the old fashion garden plants we had years ago for their fragrance and thought of how they could be brought in to add to the warmth of a home. It would be fun to try some of them if you had the space and lighting. Mock orange and honeysuckle are also two old timers that were everyplace many years ago, especially on fences on the PA farms.I remember loving the smell as you drove down the old back roads. Rambling, sorry. Back to the houseplants.

Senecio rowleyanus can be grown indoors by a window, the blooms have a faint cinnamon scent. But it does need that nice warmth and bright light to encourage the blooms to show.