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Nov 13, 2014 4:02 PM CST
Name: Barbara
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The one on the side of the neck looks like a scape. Its too soon to call the one coming out of the center.
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Nov 14, 2014 12:34 PM CST
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Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Can't believe this! My peacock just don't stop shooting out new grow day after day. Now they may turn out to be some leaves instead of all scapes, right? I hope, with finger crossed, to have two scapes at least.
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What do you think?
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Nov 14, 2014 1:05 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Ohhh...getting exciting there!!! The thrill and agony of the wait Big Grin Lovey dubby Rolling my eyes.
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Nov 14, 2014 2:31 PM CST
Name: Margaret
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How about a side view Fiat, is that growth on the side thick or thin, can't tell from this angle. Shrug!
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Nov 14, 2014 3:51 PM CST
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Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Ok, kind of hard to take a good shot...
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I think the one at center (highest) starts to show a light pink hue on its tip... still not certain the 3rd one (shortest) looks thin or thick?
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Nov 14, 2014 4:00 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Oh that bulb is such a tease! Hilarious!
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Nov 14, 2014 4:58 PM CST
Name: Margaret
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I think the growth on the side of the bulb is a leaf, it is too thin for a scape, now I see one growing behind it, only time will tell if it is a scape or another leaf.
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Nov 14, 2014 4:58 PM CST
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Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
You are dun right, Tarev. I am getting crazy.. yet also very nervous about my still sleeping Samba! This is really amazing at this time as I look back to early summer when I started growing houseplants mainly purposed to improve indoor air quality after installing a new center A/C: 40 plants including 2 amaryllis are now counted in my house. Fall season has arrived and now almost all my 38 plants before amaryllis have either started withering and shedding leaves or just stopped growing and quietly gone to sleep except my jade plants they just keep growing no matter dim light or coldness and my Peace Lily who I think never want to go to sleep any time, always frown at me if I miss watering. I never had this image when this time around as most plants go to sleep, the Amaryllis would do the opposite to wake up and grow, grow,.. and (my eyes not see yet, but will) bloom to its grace. I am thankful for Tarev's myth call on Amaryllis when I started growing plants though not knowing its true wonder until now. I hope all you amaryllis lover though already experienced and had good memory, come walk along with me to the very end of this unforgettable life miracle... and then you know: next season will surely come again.
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Nov 14, 2014 5:09 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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You are welcome Fiat! Big Grin I think it is just good timing your samba is taking awhile to wake up..that will mean after peacock is done..you still have samba to continue the amaryllis bloom fun.

Just a tip for you..your jade plants, they love this Fall weather, it loves our winters here. Likes it cool, just not too wet. If you can give them more light and chill, you will see them do its cold stress colors especially around January to spring and if lucky, some cute white blooms too. Winter is active growth time for Crassulas.
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Nov 14, 2014 10:26 PM CST
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Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Thanks, Tarev. Now I know why my old outdoor jade plants has endured (maybe 'thrive' the right word?) so many years of cold, harsh winter. Every Fall I keep wondering if they can survive the coming winter, yet every spring I see them doing well and some year I see their white flowers as you indicate. I thought the cuttings I did in early summer may just go dormant indoor like others do when winter comes, but... I feel lucky knowing I unknowingly (until now) grew a plant that would actively show its life sign in winter time. Yet, I am still on my amaryllis. Will report again later.
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Nov 15, 2014 1:11 PM CST
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Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Another day, another change. Now it looks like the 1st tip (originally from side, now in between the 2nd and 3rd) has out-grown the center one (the 2nd) in length. However, the center one has out-grown in breadth. I suspect that the center one to be a scape and the 1st one (longest) a leaf. As for the 3rd (side), too soon to call I guess. (hopefully a scape on the way.)
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Thinking about my still sleeping Samba when I noticed the very active, white, thick root from the Peacock bulb in the container. It could be the hint: the roots came with the bulb! I remember when the bulbs arrived I observed their roots: the big guy (Samba) came with many thin, dried, brittle, yellowish roots (I trimmed most of them) and the Peacock with some similar dry roots but also found several thick, long, tender, white roots (I kept them). Now I think these 'good' Peacock roots are vigorously working to push out new grows. Sadly my Samba will need more time to first grow new roots for everything to start...
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Nov 15, 2014 2:39 PM CST
Name: Barbara
Palm Coast, FL
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Well your peacock certainly seems to be thriving. I'm sure by Friday, the mystery of the leaves and scapes will be solved. Everything the bulb needs to bloom is in the bulb. I've had bulbs bloom without a single root visible. Just because you don't see any roots on the Samba doesn't mean it won't put up new growth. The problem with a bulb not having roots is it isn't anchored well in the pot and can get very top-heavy. If the bulb doesn't have extra support, the whole thing can topple over and destroy the flowers, which is heartbreaking after waiting so long for the blooms. That has happened to me several times when I had pots sitting outside and a breeze came up. I go outside and discover an Amaryllis, which had no roots, laying on the ground, its fallen out of the pot. I think you said that your bulbs are sitting well down in the containers, and the containers are pretty heavy, so that should help in stabilizing things. That brings up another issue. I've learned the hard way that 4 or 6 inch plastic pots are just not heavy enough for Amaryllis, which have so much top growth. Its too easy for the whole pot to topple over. I switched over to clay pots for that reason.
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Nov 15, 2014 4:23 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Had similar experience when first growing my amaryllis so I have learned to either use plastic bowl like or bonsai type containers so the container has a wider base if using soil as media or using tall glass containers for more weight and balance if using clay rocks and gel beads.
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Nov 15, 2014 4:25 PM CST
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Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Barbara, Thank you for sharing your interesting experience on the fall-over of a bloomed A. bulb with no roots. I can understand that "Everything the bulb needs to bloom is in the bulb". But "bulbs bloom without a single root visible" is simply out of my imagination. Not I don't believe it, but quite a remote image I can reach. I know that all needed to bloom is in the bulb, but I think the energy (fuel) is needed to grow/push out all that (bud, leaf) from the bulb. The functional roots do the work drawing water to the bulb to produce the energy with absorbed light. Maybe some bulbs w/o roots can draw water to itself? All I know is bulbs are supposed to be kept dry even just the bottom where roots grow out. If the rootless bulb can still absorb moisture from air to make energy, it probably runs slower to produce new grow than ones with roots? Anyway I'll continue to observe and report back any progress (or setback? hope not).
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Nov 20, 2014 3:32 PM CST
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Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Day 27: To me it's still not clear how many scapes my peacock has grown? Just look at today's pic:
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It looks like the tallest one at middle (the 1st grow) is a leaf and ... not sure at the center one (2nd grow) and the side (3rd grow). The side one looks like having a bulging center stripe... and hard to see to the center one (blocked by the middle and side; the back side view also blocked by the still growing-back green which is cut remain). Must wait for a little while..

As for my Samba, bad news is it's still sleeping, no change from day 1. The good news (if can be called good) is I talked to a lady at ETG Monday and she stated some variety may take longer to have new grow and asked me to wait for one more week or so; if still sleeping, call her back and they'll send a new one. Expecting no new grow till next Monday, I'll call and let them send me one hopefully with stalks already.
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Nov 20, 2014 4:23 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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That sure is one interesting growth pattern on your peacock bulbs. Unless it wants to show first leaves, before the bloom stalk, that can happen too.

Maybe it just wants a little warmth for your samba. It has been cold lately so it is taking its sweet time to show anything.
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Nov 20, 2014 4:29 PM CST
Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
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Sorry Fiat, but it still looks like leaves to me. Sad
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Nov 20, 2014 5:43 PM CST
Name: Barbara
Palm Coast, FL
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Well they do look like leaves, but I see something just poking up under the brown edged growth
in the center, that actually does look like the beginning of a scape. I am really surprised that ETG is willing to replace the Samba this soon. I would have thought they would want you to wait at least another month. That's excellent customer service. Some people use bottom heat to encourage bulbs to break dormancy. Put the vase on top of a warm appliance or on a heating pad at very low setting. I've never tried this, and my fear is that you are just encouraging rot. But someone else on this forum might have experience with this.
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Nov 20, 2014 5:54 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Oh Barb has such sharp eyes!! Looking at the photo..there is that interesting new growth in between the brown dried part at the center..it certainly looks promising nodding
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Nov 20, 2014 6:20 PM CST
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Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Yeah, I think all three new grows are likely just leaves. And Alas! Barbara has real good eyes! I fingered away the brown dry in the center and a new 4th grow appeared! Can't tell it's a scape now but WOW! how this peacock can tease me as Tarev said!

The ETG lady told me it takes about 40 to 60 days to bloom (scheduled for Xmas bloom). So if my Samba makes no change/new grow until Monday, the 31st day, I'll call for a new one. I may get to keep the sleeping one, but I expect to let it live and grow by nature force/rule. Thanks for the "heating force" idea.
If a plant looks good, smells good, don't eat it, grow it!
Fiat

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