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Jun 26, 2016 11:17 AM CST
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Name: Kevin Smith
INDIANA (Zone 5b)
Judy, i am with you on that rain amount because we had almost non stop rain for the entire 1st half of May. But then again i remember other rainy Aprils and wet Mays here and yes everything was green but i do not remember having the performance of so many of my plants being outstanding like this year.
Was it a weather fluke,? i do not believe so. I went from no fertilizer to fertilizing everything and i have several cultivars i have owned for many years and they have Never performed so well or grown so tall.
I never knew how much i was handicapping my plants.
Btw i am not going to push my luck with the rabbits here and start using alfalfa pellets.
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Jun 27, 2016 6:38 AM CST
Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 6a)
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@Seedfork - Larry let's see how long that three feet idea last. Rolling on the floor laughing
Don't get me wrong, it is a great idea. If I had done that I wouldn't be hearing DW talking about the JUNGLE ! Down side would have been more grass removed or fewer plants.
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Jun 28, 2016 11:11 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Chapin, SC (Zone 8a)
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I've also used it for years and it works well. Broadcast over the beds it keeps deer at bay for a couple of weeks. You don't have to put it on thickly for this. It's the smell they don't like.
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Jun 29, 2016 3:40 AM CST
Name: Suga
Coastal South Carolina (Zone 8b)
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I use the alfalfa pellets along with the malgranite but instead of just throwing the pellets out I put them in a bucket and fill it full of water. Then mix it with my potting soil or either mix it around established plants. I haven't had any problems with rabbits doing it that way. One thing I have noticed tho is an abundance of earthworms!!!! Happy happy happy! Hurray! nodding Thumbs up
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Jun 29, 2016 9:41 AM CST
Brookline, NH (Zone 5a)
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I personally will never use Milorganite; it's sewer waste from the city of Milwaukee. The name comes from a series of letters, MIL-waukee-ORGAnic-NITrogEn. It's heated which basically kills everything (bacteria), but what about the drugs (prescribed / non-prescribed) and anything else people flush down their pipes. JMO to each their own.
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Jun 29, 2016 10:45 AM CST
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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I love it, no secret where it comes from. Nobody died yet, and it works like a champ. I will admit making sure I have on gloves. Heck, people drink the stuff after it goes thru some process. Talk about a turn off. If the plants are happy, Im happy.
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Jun 29, 2016 2:39 PM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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When you really think about it, a lot of fertilizer comes from waste; cow manure, horse manure, rabbit manure (and a lot of rabbits carry disease) but we still use those as well.
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Jun 30, 2016 6:01 AM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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I, personally, use Milorganite, too. But I will say that I would not use it on any edible plants.
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Jun 30, 2016 6:20 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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I use Milorganite and it does seem to do a good job of greening up my daylilies early in the season. It is recommended by a lot of growers and I started using it because Dan Hansen in a video highly recommended it. I seem to be partial to the way he grows his daylilies. I like it because it is easy to work with, and I have yet to my knowledge burned or killed a plant by using Milorganite. I really like it because it seems to be reasonably priced, and I feel that if Milorganite and other products like it can possibly be used in a positive manner then it is much better to have treatment plants that do process all the drugs and trash etc. out of the sewage instead of just dumping it into the rivers untreated like so many places in the world do. If buy purchasing such a product I can help finance other treatment plants that do such a wonderful job of treating sewage instead of just dumping it, I feel it is worth the little risk that it exposes my personal garden to. I look at it as a win win type of product!
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Jul 9, 2016 12:45 AM CST
Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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I have been using alfalfa meal for years. The feed store here only carries small bags so I have him order in the big bags because they are cheaper.
But looking even cheaper are the pellets. The pellets are 1/2 the price of meal. I also had as much rabbit poop as needed, which I can no longer get. So I need even more alfalfa. Before I never would have considered pellets because of the animals especially the moles and voles thing. I also want to dig the pellets into the soil, but do not want to feed the under ground voles. If I mix the milorganite and pellets together first and dig that in would that make the pellets undesirable and inedible? I do not want to create an underground winter food pantry. More voles means more snakes. It is a cycle I don't want. Also, to mix in would be epsom salts, ironite, ashes, and green compost. If I need to cut the odor I have well rotted cow manure compost to cover. Any input would be a help. Thank you for your time! May the Angels guide and protect you!
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Jul 13, 2016 7:04 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Kevin Smith
INDIANA (Zone 5b)
As for burning, last year whenever i planted a new Daylily i dumped half of cup of Milorganite right into the hole and then watered, backfilled and watered again. I also tilled plenty of it right into new beds and sprinkled it all over established ones. I like it because its low grade, organic and easy to handle. I bought a 5 gallon bucket to keep mine in.
I have also yet to see any plants gone wild or acting strangely because of any possible drugs in the product. I probably would not use it on vegetables but then again what is Really in our cereal?
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Jul 13, 2016 8:04 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Florida's east coast (Zone 9a)
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Two years ago I used alfalfa pellets early in the year on my daylilies. Oh mercy, the problems I had with raccoons and opossums! Guess I'll not be doing that again.
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Jul 14, 2016 6:33 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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I am having problems with critters digging in my potted daylily seeds. Seems to only occur overnight so I am thinking raccoons or skunks. My daughter says it looks like chipmunks.
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Jul 14, 2016 10:00 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Raccoons, possums, chipmunks, squirrels, whatever if I don't place protective covering over seeds of any kind they will be dug up.
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Jul 14, 2016 10:25 AM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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I do use chicken wire over my containers and new seedlings until they get big enough to deter the diggers that come into my yard. Works great and can easily be removed when no longer needed. I have various sized pieces already cut which I store when not in use. Using it has saved many a plant! Which may be why I don't have squirrels or raccoons or any other critter doing any major digging around my gardens and containers. I have them fooled to think I have the chicken wire everywhere! Whistling Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
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Jul 14, 2016 12:35 PM CST
Name: Amber
Missouri (Zone 6a)
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How are milorganite and alfalfa pellets typically applied to existing clumps of daylilies? I need to start fertilizing...
Amber
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Jul 14, 2016 2:02 PM CST
Name: Judy
Louisiana (Zone 9b)
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I just take a handful of each and scatter around and in between clumps until I have applied enough to lightly cover exposed areas. I try to avoid getting any lodged in leaves, but I don't worry if I do. I try to apply just before a rain is forecast. (Rain will dissolve the alfalfa pellets quickly.) I don't make the effort to dig either milogranite nor the pellets into the soil. They get mixed with the soil when I weed. After mulching, I have found they will work down through the mulch to the soil line with watering or rain.
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Jul 14, 2016 2:37 PM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Seedfork said:Raccoons, possums, chipmunks, squirrels, whatever if I don't place protective covering over seeds of any kind they will be dug up.


This is actually the first summer I have ever had trouble with animals digging in my pots. This is also the first summer I have seen a chipmunk in my yard. Maybe it is the culprit.
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Jul 14, 2016 5:09 PM CST
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
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I use chicken wire to protect seedlings from cockatoos. But it is not fertiliser or Lucerne pellets that attract them: the cockatoos just prefer anything green and living that can be made into small pieces.
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Jul 14, 2016 10:27 PM CST
Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 6a)
"Have no patience for bare ground"
@Amberjewel, if you are not fertilizing a few hundred plants my suggestion if you are fit and able Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing is to give extra care to the ones that " tickle your fancy" ( meaning) pulling back the mulch or before you mulch and dig into the top two inches around the plant, cover and water well. I use some Osmocote in SPECIAL situations earlier in the summer. Freely broadcast like Judy suggested around the others.
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