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Aug 2, 2015 7:40 AM CST
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Name: Patrick
Toms River, New Jersey (Zone 7a)
Dog Lover Irises Lilies Region: New Jersey Orchids Region: Pennsylvania
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Wow. I think it would just be a lot easier if we referred to the back end as the "FAN END", ya know, where the Iris fans are . Geeeesh. This is now getting complicated. I am going to continue to assume
that the HEEL END is the FAN END, where the leaves are. It makes things so much easier for everyone.
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Aug 2, 2015 7:48 AM CST
Name: Pam
Pennsylvania
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Or even simpler "Stick your butts out!" Smiling Easy to remember.
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Aug 2, 2015 8:04 AM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
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I don't think we get to decide new terms that have been around for quite a while. I know I could come up with a few...... and not just for irises. smiles
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Aug 2, 2015 12:52 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Patrick
Toms River, New Jersey (Zone 7a)
Dog Lover Irises Lilies Region: New Jersey Orchids Region: Pennsylvania
Roses
Ok, now let's move on to Watering. How often do you water a newly planted Iris rhizomes (either in the ground, or in a pot) ???
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Aug 2, 2015 1:29 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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In the pot every day when it's hot, or they dry out it seems. I don't usually pot very many. In the ground new ones everyday for a week or until I see some evidence that they have taken. i.e. they give me the finger. Smiling Or if I give them a gentle tug they are firmly connected to the ground.
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Aug 2, 2015 1:32 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Patrick
Toms River, New Jersey (Zone 7a)
Dog Lover Irises Lilies Region: New Jersey Orchids Region: Pennsylvania
Roses
Right now most of my rhizomes are potted ......... and some of the rhizomes look like they have "shriveled" and have big dents (or holes) in them. So I don't know what that's all about.
But we have had a few days of intense heat and sunshine, Today included, and the next 3-days
are expected to be the same. So I'm trying to keep all the pots watered.
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Aug 2, 2015 1:49 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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It might help to move them where they only get morning sun for a while.
Politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often, and for the same reason.
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Aug 2, 2015 8:06 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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I was just gonna say -- give them some shade...............
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Aug 17, 2015 11:59 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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tveguy3 said:In the pot every day when it's hot, or they dry out it seems. I don't usually pot very many. In the ground new ones everyday for a week or until I see some evidence that they have taken. i.e. they give me the finger. Smiling Or if I give them a gentle tug they are firmly connected to the ground.


Hahaha. I am so glad you mentioned the finger! I have been thinking while planting this weekend how much I love when the new plantings start giving me the finger! Hilarious! Hilarious! Green Grin!
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Aug 17, 2015 12:07 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Patrick
Toms River, New Jersey (Zone 7a)
Dog Lover Irises Lilies Region: New Jersey Orchids Region: Pennsylvania
Roses
I inspected the one garden today - found "Oriental Glory" buried under the soil. Totally buried and un-exposed. I don't know how that happened, but it is only hanging on by One Root!
And there are no leaves/fans attached to the rhizome, but there is a small green growth
showing at the heel. So, what do I do ? Leave it and see what happens ?
Confused
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Aug 17, 2015 12:30 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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Celebrating Gardening: 2015
if it has green growth starting I would leave it in place, but also brush away some of the soil so the rhizome is not totally buried.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Aug 17, 2015 3:29 PM CST
Name: Jeanne
Lansing, Iowa (Zone 5a)
Birds Region: United States of America Vegetable Grower
I just dug up these Iris' from my raised bed. I am going to plant them on my side hill. I now know how to do it since I just read this thread. I know to plant the butts (heels) outward and to not cover the complete rhizome. In several of my clumps that I pulled apart, there are 5, 6, or even 7 fans (rhizomes) together. Is it okay to plant them that way rather than separating them into single rhizomes. Here is a picture of the kind that I dug up. I do not know the name of them as they were originally given to me.
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Aug 17, 2015 5:28 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I'm not an expert on the beardless types of irises, so I can't help, hopefully someone who grows lots of them can jump in here and help you.
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Aug 17, 2015 5:36 PM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
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It is iris pseudacorus which is pretty but considered invasive in water ways. Not welcome in some states. You could plant small clumps. Beardless iris like it and Siberians, Spurias, and Japanese are typically planted in divisions rather than individual rhizomes......
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
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Aug 17, 2015 6:06 PM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
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I agree , and a little deeper, as well. http://irises.org/About_Irises...
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Aug 17, 2015 7:23 PM CST
Name: Jeanne
Lansing, Iowa (Zone 5a)
Birds Region: United States of America Vegetable Grower
Thank You! Paul and Tom for your help.

I found out the hard way how this plant reproduces. I dug up some plants that I planted behind my garage a few years ago. The next year there were new ones growing and I thought maybe I missed part of the plants that I dug the previous year. But I pulled out a small one and it was attached to a round flat seed. That is when I discovered that each one of those seed pods had loads of seeds. Since then I make sure I get the pods off before they dry up and open. So far I have been able to control them. Here are pictures of the ones I dug up. I have a lot of work ahead of me.
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I think I am suppose to cut back the foliage to around 2" when I plant them. Am I correct?
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Aug 17, 2015 7:43 PM CST
Name: Linnea
Southern Maine, border 5b/6a (Zone 5b)
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Some of those showed up at the Maine swap this year. I think some folks put them around koi ponds and water features.
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Aug 18, 2015 5:47 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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Foliage is cut back when shipping to prevent water loss, not necessary in your own garden.
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Aug 18, 2015 3:15 PM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a semi-retired studio potter.
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They look like yellow pond iris. Very aggressive in my pond. Crowded out the Papyrus.
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Aug 18, 2015 3:21 PM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
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Iris psuedacorus. Google it........
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah

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