That would explain y I havnt lol. Thank you Natalie.

So does that mean purple D'oro is a dip too?

I have divided my daylilies in the spring, but I also successfully divide them now. I usually wait until after they have finished blooming, then dig up the clump and pry them apart into reasonable pieces, then replant or pot up to give away. I trim the foliage back to about 6 inches. I have many pots sitting out near my laneway of daylilies I divided last week. I had some very large clumps of some of my older varieties that had been in the garden for years, such as Luxury Lace, Raspberry Pixie, Siloam Pee Wee, Cream Drop, etc. I divided Stella a couple of years ago, but she is such a fast grower, that I could do it again!

Purple De Oro is a diploid, so you can cross that with Stella. The database here shows the ploidy of each daylily, so it is a good place to start! Don't feel alone though. I crossed some dips and tets this year myself, and didn't get any seed either. I looked at the wrong tag!

I will wait next spring to divide the big clump. As I said in an another post we had two mild winters but who knows how the next will be (it should freeze, and snow, but for the past two years no freeze and lots of water), if I could see in the future I'd know even if I can put the seeds in the ground. I won't take the risk, I will grow seeds inside and divide the clump next spring.

@sooby, many thanks for taking the time to write your useful post. I read on an italian forum that horse manure is good for alkaline and clay soil, because it helps organisms and earthworms so in a certain way it brings back soil to life, then the things living down there make a better soil. But I'll take the time to understand things better!

Sounds like a safe plan, Sabrina!

I hope so! I'm such an ignorant in gardening!!

That is how you learn! You make mistakes, and you learn from them! Having a good plan though is better, and this is a great one. Daylilies don't mind being divided in the Spring anyway, and with your warm zone, you can get an earlier start than many of us can.

I am totally ignorant with gardening too. Or so I claim. That way, when I kill a plant, I can chalk it up to ignorance, instead of lack of proper care!

cybersix said:

@sooby, many thanks for taking the time to write your useful post. I read on an italian forum that horse manure is good for alkaline and clay soil, because it helps organisms and earthworms so in a certain way it brings back soil to life, then the things living down there make a better soil. But I'll take the time to understand things better!

You're welcome, it was basically just cut and paste from a document I'd prepared a few years ago. Horse manure will certainly improve a clay soil, but your problem with chlorosis may not be fixed by horse manure because it will not do much if anything to lower the soil pH. In some cases horse manure can actually make a soil more alkaline, especially if the stables have used lime as a disinfectant.

I had problems with interveinal chlorosis in my daylilies years ago and I had amended the soil (natural pH here is about 6.8 so lower than yours) with horse manure - we had horses at the time. I had the daylily leaves tested and the problem was manganese deficiency due to the pH being too high, and since then I've found quite a few people have this problem with certain daylilies.

To see how important the pH is to nutrient availability, check out this chart from Michigan State University. You can see how the availability of the micronutrients tails off as the pH gets higher (except for molybdenum).

http://msue.anr.msu.edu/upload...

I certainly wouldn't discourage you from improving your clay with composted horse manure (definitely don't use poultry manure), but it won't necessarily fix the chlorosis problem.

I was told that raw manure isn't good for lillies. Although I'm not sure the same goes for day lillies or not.

I'm showing you a pic of the seed pods. Temperature is lower than past weeks, it's raining a lot, but Stella still aborts its pods. They become yellow at any stage (big or small), soft, and then fall.
Checking pods I noticed that leaves have still interveinal chlorosis. Also, some leaves are large and some are thin.
My test kit for soil should arrive in two days. I'm leaning to manganese deficency too, I need to have certain informations.

Any guess on this? Today I'm losing other two pods, they yellow, then wrinkle, then lose every consistency and seem about to rotten. I take them off when I see they are getting bad.

the kit for soil analysys will be there tomorrow, if everything goes as planned by the evening I will know more about soil.

Might you have a close-up photograph of the flower of your Stella?

Often plants sold as Stella are not the real Stella de Oro. When I was first starting in daylilies this happened to me several times and I was only able to buy the true Stella when I started buying daylilies from specialist daylily nurseries.

My wife, purchased a plant sold as Stella from a plant nursery several years ago. As soon as it bloomed I told her it was not true Stella. I gave her some true Stella.

True Stella is self-compatible - if insects self-pollinate it then most of the pods will stay and mature (but not necessarily all of them). But typically diploid daylily cultivars are self-incompatible - if insects self-pollinate them then pods will form but they will all drop off quite soon, usually before two or three weeks have passed.

Stella is a diploid; what other daylilies do you grow and which are closest to your Stella? If they are tetraploids then insects might cross-pollinate Stella with the tetraploid pollen and pods will form but all the pods will drop-off/abort.

I never thougth to such an option!!
I bought it two years ago in a big garden center. I took pics of leaves too, some are thin and some are thick.
Many thanks!





Ops sorry, I forgot. I have other diploids and some tets but no one I in bloom now. My neighbors has a Stella de oro which sets a lot of pods and they ripen correctly. Thanks !

Looks to me like true Stella de Oro.

So there's a problem to identify!

My Stella still aborts pods.
Temperature is lower than this summer, but still the problem is there.
No rains, could be a problem of watering?

I'm so sad about it because this morning I found a 4 section pod. But I'm afraid it will die as the others.

Perhaps you could try a test and self-pollinate some of the Stella flowers? You would need to self-pollinate a few flowers as Stella is not perfectly self-compatible. If you do try self-pollinations they should be done in the morning if possible after the anthers open and the pollen is dry and fluffy.

Maurice, I guess every pod is self pollinated, my Stella and neighbor's are the only flowers open since middle august..

I will try tomorrow morning.
I find many pods each morning when flowers are spent, but none survives.
The Stella that's sitting in the neighbour's garden, just in forn of mine, had pods all summer long, and all ripened!

Sabrina,
Would it be possible for you to take a photograph of the flower on your neighbour's Stella and post it here?

Does your Stella abort most of its pods before they are about a week to ten days old?