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Dec 22, 2015 9:58 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Over here, we would surely die without air conditioning. Hilarious!
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Dec 22, 2015 10:12 AM CST
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Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
Well if it does go on like this we might as well soon. It is now about 13 celcius. Normally we would have ice and snow. Climate changes fast. Thumbs down
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Dec 22, 2015 12:00 PM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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It is around 80 F here today and the humidity, at 90%, makes it feel like you are walking through soup. The thought of fresh air in the Netherlands sounds delightful.
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
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Dec 22, 2015 12:04 PM CST
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Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
I have no idea How warm that is in celcius, but it does sound bad. I guess accordance to your climate ours is better fight now, but it is supposed to snow now. Sighing!
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Dec 22, 2015 12:43 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
When we visited (pretty much all of) Western Europe, the Netherlands was part of our two week trip (is the Netherlands considered Northern Europe?). It was wonderful there. We spent a day in Amsterdam, a truly delightful city.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Dec 22, 2015 12:46 PM CST
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Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
Yes Ken. Amsterdam is interesting, but just be careful with your wallet. A lot of pickpockets.
There are many nice things to see there.
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Dec 22, 2015 12:53 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I think that's pretty much all of Europe. On another trip, a band of young "street people" tried their best to capture my wallet in Spain. They were not skilled enough. Whistling I always keep my wallet in a front pocket, a tight front pocket, and that makes the thief's job a bit harder. Heck, I even do that here in the USA.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Dec 22, 2015 1:06 PM CST
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Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
Yes you sure are right. We had the Same in Istanbul. A group of gypsy kids where following us. The problem is we where prepared for it. You have to nowadays. I do not even take a bag with me mostly. Just plastic money and a id.
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Dec 29, 2015 2:35 AM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
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Hi Willeke! Just saw your post in another thread. It's only 6:30 PM over here...the rest of America are in slumber at this time.

How are your seedlings doing?
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Dec 29, 2015 4:10 AM CST
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Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
Hi Kadie. My seedlings are doing great. The biggest ones do have 5 leaves now and a nice cadeaux already. The youngest ones are also very nice. Hurray!
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Dec 29, 2015 4:27 AM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
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@Adeniumgirl

Wonderful! Hooray!!! Thumbs up

Night-nite...it's 8:30 PM now I'm getting mighty sleepy. But first I'm going to snack on a pizza. Hilarious! See you tomorrow. Please post pictures soon and I will do likewise. Big Grin
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Dec 29, 2015 6:32 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
Will do @Rainbow. Good night
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Dec 30, 2015 6:18 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
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Here an update on the seedlings. The top picture are from 12 november. The did grow nice, but the leaves are still very tiny. Is that normal?
The second one is from 10 december and the third one is from 15 december. They all are doing fine. They are enjoying the sun right now.
Also a new batch in the propagator again.
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Dec 30, 2015 8:04 AM CST
Name: Rick
Vancouver Island, Canada (Zone 8a)
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Willeke, They look wonderful and the leaves at this size are fine. Nice to see the differences with your seedlings all started in intervals.
Rick
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Dec 30, 2015 8:19 AM CST
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Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
Thanks Rick. Glad to hear they look fine. Yes it is nice to see the difference in all the stages and the differences with How the where. You can see them grow in the pics. Thank You!
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Dec 30, 2015 11:11 AM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
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Willeke, your seedlings are so cute! They look like they sprouted through "snow."
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Dec 30, 2015 11:29 AM CST
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Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
Thanks @Rainbow. Lol the snow that we do not have here right now. Yes they are very cute aren't they? Lovey dubby
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Dec 31, 2015 7:50 AM CST
Name: Rick
Vancouver Island, Canada (Zone 8a)
Adeniums Seed Starter Plumerias Peonies Native Plants and Wildflowers Hibiscus
Dog Lover Container Gardener Region: Canadian Cactus and Succulents Brugmansias Tropicals
Hey there Willeke. A gentleman from India. NRSundaram has some Arabicums and others for sale and they are only available to those within the EU. They ship from where he is in the Netherlands. He resides there for 5-6mths. I have received seeds from him and he is a very well known fella and so knowledgeable. He is listed on FB if you go there.
Just a note as they are so low in cost.
Rick
"Many times a day I realize how much my own outer and inner life is built upon the labors of my fellow men, both living and dead, and how earnestly I must exert myself in order to give in return as much as I received"
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Dec 31, 2015 9:27 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Willeke
Netherlands (Zone 8b)
Cactus and Succulents Houseplants
Thanks Rick. I Will take a look. Best Wishes for the new year.
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Jan 2, 2016 1:23 PM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
Adeniums Tropicals Morning Glories Container Gardener Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1
Dog Lover Cat Lover Bee Lover Vegetable Grower Butterflies Permaculture
Adeniumgirl said:Hi Kadie. My seedlings are doing great. The biggest ones do have 5 leaves now and a nice cadeaux already. The youngest ones are also very nice. Hurray!

Good morning, Willeke! Through my research as well as experience, when the babies have 5 to 6 true leaves, it is time to transplant them into their own individual 4" pots.

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