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turini said:Hi Lynn
I'm not finished yet in finding out how it will work best.

At the moment I cannot say, if there is a limit. I hope, that everybody can have, which is wanted. If the people want only 50 cultivars (all people together) it's o.k, if they want 500 cultivars it's o.k. It depends, if they are available in the hybridizers' nurseries.

Maybe people have wishes, so they can say their wishes in the beginning. But no guarantee, if it's possible to get all those wished cultivars.
One will have the duty to collect them all and email them to me. But should be reasonable wishes. Impossible to find hundreds of 'Fame Monstrose' and similar things.

Then I can go and look for. I'll do this maybe in March, in any case after weather is not any more frosty.
Better to have not too big plants. Smaller ones and offsets would be probably o.k.

When I go and look for, I will certainly find more interesting cultivars, which are maybe on no whishlist. But I can offer, when I have seen them. Some pictures will sometimes be attached (not all cultivars, but quite a few).

The prices depend on how much the hybridizers want and postage, papers etc.
Payment with PayPal would be o.k. Maybe payment in one total amount, after having all preparations finished. Or in two sums. I don't know at the moment.

Delivery should be End of March. But maybe the Hybridizers will have stress in March with their own beginning deliveries, so it might take place a delay until April.

Let's see, how it will work best. Now, I first must get information about customs regulations etc.

As soon as I know more I'l write back again. Meanwhile people can make wishlists. It's more likely to get cultivars created by the visited hybridizers, than others. But there are also many other sorts in the nurseries.

And please note: It's an attempt. Hope it works.

Best regards
Wolfgang


valleylynn said:
valleylynn said:Just a quick question for you Wolfgang, will the offsets be shipped with clean roots intact? And how many offsets would be in one order?

@turini
turini said:Hi, valleylynn
offsets will have roots, normally. Like they have produced (more or less) on the adult plant. Just will have to be clean - no soil. So I have to get them washed clean, before shipping.
How many depends on how many will be available at the nurseries. If, for instance, from the cultivar 'Leopold' 100 offsets are needed - why not?

Nevertheless I'll try to pack bigger plants too.

So far I can say, that almost all of the cultivars on the given wishlists probably will be available. Maybe 'Interstellar' will be out of stock. Just found only one specimen at Schara's nursery last year. Today one offset of this cultivar has been sold in German ebay for 9,50 Euro. Same with 'Romiley'.

'Halo Luca', as I appreciate, is not available in Germany so far. The picture in sempervivum-liste.de has been made in the hybridizers Garden in Belgium.
There are many Havendijks. It's a series of many different cultivars. The cultivar with the single name 'Havendijk' is without picture mentioned in sempervivum-liste.de

tcstoehr said:
On a separate note, the ugly specter of monetary budgeting is beginning to get my attention a little bit. I don't want to request more than I can afford, but I don't know what prices will be and I understand why that is, completely. No complaint whatsoever. I'm going forward with my own personal estimation that each plant will on the average cost me $10. I believe that to be on the high side... better safe than sorry as they say. But it's still just a guess.
turini said:Oh yes. I expected this.
There is no idea from my person just to get a wealthy man with this offer.


Please do apologize my limited English - I'm German

There will not be plants in the packages which have for instance a price of 10$ or even more.
I think, that 2 or maybe 3$, and sometimes 1$ is the price, we'll have to talk about. It depends on the nurseries listed prices. For offsets.
Big plants sure are up to 10$, depending on how new, how rare etc(incl. customs). Just take a look to several hybridizer's lists-.

I can tell you special information about that, when I've visited the nurseries.

Wishlists are very helpful. And before giving exact orders, everyone will know the costs. As I already said: For me the more easyer way is just give a pricelist an wait for orders. But I can imagine, that there are special interests, which I want to follow.

So please: don't think about money. And I know: after this great transaction the show really will begin and maybe another transaction in 2017 will follow.. It's a test first, I know. Don't be concerned. I'll do my best.


gg5 said:Tim brought up a question - if we're using Google translate and it is set to Auto (mine is) then we don't see the German name, only the English translation - Wolfgang do we need to have all the semps with the correct German names or will you know what they are?? For example I want 'Pot of Gold' but the real name is 'Goldschatz' Please let me know if I should only use the German names Thank you!


valleylynn said:We should always us the correct cultivar name. We ran into that two years ago, and Peter helped us straighten out the mess we had.
If you now sure go to the German version, both with Peter's site and Erwin's site. Maybe open two windows or tabs for cross reference on the names?


tcstoehr said:Another warning of something I've run into, make sure your selections' names are unique. For example if you wanted the excellent Jovi 'Feuerrad' and just put 'Feuerrad' on your list, you might well instead receive Sempervivum 'Feuerrad' which is also excellent but maybe not what you wanted. I've run into this on my own list with another variety. The point is, rarely but sometimes, the same name is given to both a Jovi and another non-Jovi. I can picture poor Wolfgang standing at a table full of semps scratching his head and wondering.


tcstoehr said:Just in case anyone is as clueless as I am, when you look at the http://www.sempervivum-liste.d... listing for an individual cultivar, pressing the 'bilder-galerie' (Image Gallery) link will often give you more pictures, sometimes alot more. Maybe I'm the only one who didn't know.


Here is the list of people participating in this purchase, please let me know if I missed someone?:
@gg5
@goldfinch4
@jkbingh
@JungleShadows
@MountainCrestGardens
@pardalinum
@Patty
@perennialobsessions
@springcolor
@tcstoehr
@turini
@valleylynn
@webesemps
@dirtdorphins

[b]Places to look for European semps.

http://garden.org/plants/brows...
http://sempervivum-liste.de/
https://www.semper-vivum.de/
http://www.sempervivum.info/ht...
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