Joshua, mainly just selecting for tall seedlings, but I have to say that most will go back to Fred Fellner and Jean Ericksen seed that was sent to me over the years. I am going to try to see if I can get 1c or downfacing seedlings with this bud count and tall too although at this height outfacing is probably the way to go. However, as I think I pointed out before the upfacing moderately recurved is nice as well. Here are a couple of seedlings that are very tall as well, but the bud count is down. I can't really fault them as the flowers are so well placed and there are no secondary buds either. They are close to six feet as well and to back to 'Giraffe'.