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Mar 4, 2017 4:15 PM CST
Sydney, Australia (Zone 10b)
dellac said:So, the seed I sowed was ((L. rosthornii x L. henryi) x L. henryi citrinum) x ((L. rosthornii x L. henryi) x L. henryi citrinum) and the orange:yellow ratio of the resulting plants that flowered was around 3:1..............

I did use pollen from that yellow seedling on TallBoy, but now we're into the realm of orienpets. Just for interest anyway; 'TallBoy' (henryi x oriental 'Valley Sundust') is ordinary old henryi orange. The progeny of the cross have been split 50/50 orange/yellow. Four examples of each, total 8 seedlings flowered.


auratum said: I would have expected all of the latter cross to be orange colored and not a 50/50 mix...


(cutting quotes down to the relevant parts) I maybe shouldn't respond since I've just woken up and have sleepy eyes but....from what I'm seeing I'd expect 50/50.

I'm assuming diploid.

Tallboy would carry a dominant orange and possibly a nothing relevant from the oriental. The genes likely don't line up perfectly in wide (and often species) crosses so the corresponding gene loci for the orange colour could be for something else entirely or just be junk DNA in orientals that doesn't do much/anything. (I may not have explained that well, paraphasing, the specific gene location for colour in one species often won't be in the same location in another species, can be if the colour gene is shared by common ancestors but if the colour came about after the species split chances are they'll be in different locations)

If yellow is recessive, then the pollen parent would have two yellows

the 4 outcomes of that gene pair (O = dom orange, y = recessive yellow, ? = possible not relevant gene for colour from oriental side)
Oy, ?y
Oy, ?y

50/50

Beyond the orange/yellow difference was there any other obvious differences. Like was Lilium auratum var. platyphyllum influence obvious in anything?

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