Thanks for the information, Paul. I guess every situation is sort of unique, and with me being in S. Florida and you in WA, I imagine our growing conditions and critters are extremely different. I assume you have no soft shell turtles there. Mine are huge things, about 2' long with their long necks extended. I also have tilapia, large mouth bass, and bream. Do you have these fish? Here's a soft shell turtle that I caught out in the yard a couple of days ago.