The torch gingers have always been favorites of mine. My Pink Torch is now as big as my Red Torch so I expect blooms on her this summer. I also recently got a single rhizome start of the one called Malay Rose and it has established but I probably will not get anything out of it until next season. I used to have a White torch but it is finicky compared to the others. I have tried with 2 starts over the past 2 seasons and both failed to establish