OregonMarty, did you get any of the terrible wind we had yesterday? I spent 4 hours on cleanup and all the plants on the driveway need to be moved again. I couldn't believe all the plants that were tipped over. So much damage!! Makes one, say enough and start cutting back. Done gardening!!! So much smoke and evergreen in the air. All the blooms on the brugs just dried up! Glad I started stripping them Friday morning! I had a couple visitor this week and it's so great to see the younger generations excited about gardening!! Looking forward in your visit next year.