As all I wanted was Silk Hat, and it's too darned hot to plant anything right now (I got some plants from one of Mamajack's co-ops that I wanted shipped in Sept but they wanted to ship ASAP, so I'm hoping that they're OK) and I wasn't willing to pay $20 for a band plus shipping not to mention last time I got bands not one survived, I said to heck with it & decided that, if I'm destined to get Silk Hat, I'll find it someplace else. I'd be willing to pay more for a decent sized rose, but bands just will not make it for me.
