Vossner, was it Ashdown you are referring to? I'm not convinced I've lost more than five of those ( I think I bought close to twenty), even though they arrived with the most convincing case of cerclospora fungus I've ever seen. I pulled off the blighted leaves, dipped them all in Green Cure potassium bicarbonate and the blight was gone. Good news for me was that the root systems were wonderfully developed. Edith Bellenden, Baltimore Belle, Cotton Candy, and Blush Noisette kept some green leaves all winter long, and two of the three Jean Bach Sisely are doing well. Francoise Juranville is doing great. Pearl Drift is looking pretty iffy, though I'm not sure what the problem is. Franics E. Lester is being nibbled to death, hardly the fault of Ashdown. One of three La Marne was lost to the same cause and the other two remain on the watch list. All three Nathalie Nypels are gone. Not sure why. I think I'm done with that rose. I've lost it quickly twice. On the whole, I'm glad I bought from them. Will see if that changes by the end of this season.