Thanks, Toni. They've had Baby Talk on their general list for about 10 years and they've never had one available for sale before, so I have to assume it roots poorly and probably grows poorly too. I did buy two Pillow Talks from Vintage over the years, but they were utter duds. I'd rather have the memory of the two beautiful grafted Baby Talk bushes I grew for years than a spindly own-root rose that probably will not thrive.
In general, my dwindling income probably will preclude any purchases of band roses from now on. If Palatine offers something exciting in September, I'll buy it. I know a big bare-root rose from Palatine, grafted onto R. multiflora, will thrive and will not require gopher protection.