well they are pretty prolific around this area, I think I could advertise on Craigs List that I want some and probably someone will give or sell me some cheap. I'm hoping to pick some up locally if I can. I need about 40 of them. I am planing an area 80 ft long in a row along the road. I have daffodils and surprise lilies there and I am hoping to add the iris and some stella de oro daylilies. I don't really love those, but they do bloom alot and don't require alot of care. I need something short too so I think this will make a nice row. Someday when I win the lottery I don't buy tickets for-I'm gonna put a white picket fence out there.