Lyn - Just getting tired of having to trim everything down to the dirt every single year.. and I mean everything. Now I have bluebeards growing everywhere (volunteers), and I love agastaches.. but the amount of work I'm having to put into the roses, the fact it's hard to weed inside them due to the thorns, plus the price of the plants themselves (perennials have a 1 year warranty most places, but nurseries won't warranty a rose or give a warranty til only October) as nurseries are getting more & more expensive with roses (understandably, but I really don't want to be paying $30+ for a rose that won't be around next year perhaps). I can grow buddlejas, penstemons, salvias.. don't get me wrong, I think I'll still have roses. I just won't do the entire yard exclusively in roses any longer.