Neal--are you referring to the article I posted on Gerry Danen's Facebook forum? I intend to re-write that up here soon; as soon as we get a little break in the action, maybe after the Tasmania season. It's a little long for the scope of this forum but maybe I can break it into part 1, part 2 kind of thing. I wouldn't say Woodriff was a mad scientist at all. Quite the opposite. Woodriff was a kind hearted gentleman who hobbled around most of the time with the use of a cane and sometimes two. His work methods were anything but scientific. I will say he was obsessed with deep interest for hybridizing and the outcome/ result, so much so, that others were able to take advantage of his work and ,in some cases made millions while he could hardly afford a loaf of bread. But he was happy with what he was doing, nonetheless. Yes, Woodriff was without a doubt the most colorful and interesting and most likely the best liked of all the great American hybridizers. He led a very eventful life, full of stange twists and sometimes bizarre turns.