Patty - My Purple Splash climber, Charles de Mills, & George Burns are all bloodthirsty beasts. I had planted CdM next to the house because HMF stated that it was thornless. HA! Mine's got thorns on it's thorns!! He's an evil rose, if beautiful... And PS loves to snag at my hair as I bend down.. I've been ensnared in that rose many times pruning!! George just bites me through my jeans.. no such thing about walking through my yard in shorts!!