Gigi...aren't you close to Sarasota? If you would like to come take some cuttings of either or both I'd be thrilled to have you!
What's the best way to work with clippings? Do you put them right in the ground or let them dry out for a few days first? I've not had good luck with cuttings I buy at the shows...I stick em in the ground or pots and they muck up and die on me!