Thanks, Lyn. I knew you'd have lots of information about this.
It's all a bit silly, isn't it? So the denomination name can't be reused, but who cares about that? No one's ever going to brag about the WEKebtidere they're growing. They're going to call it Twilight Zone.
In general, a central registry wouldn't do that much good at this point. First of all, there are the thousands and thousands of roses that were never registered. Then there is the fact that the same rose can have so many different names.
At this point, I'm going to change the subject slightly and talk about the rules of our Rose Database in case people have questions about it. We list the roses in our database alphabetically under their exhibition names, but we also list the other names as cultivar names in the same entry. 'English Sonnet' is a good example. It has a denomination code (HARverag), but I bought mine as 'Samaritan," Heirloom has sold it under two different names ('Lawrence of Arabia' and 'Fragrant Surprise'), and it's also known as 'King Arthur.'
Rose (Rosa 'English Sonnet')
In contrast to other parts of the ATP Database, the Rose Database doesn't list these extra names as also-sold-as names. We give them equal standing as cultivar names because it's hard to say which of them is the main name. It wouldn't make any sense to list roses alphabetically by their denomination codes. Who knows offhand that Meibacus is the code for 'Comtesse de Provence'? And what would we do about all the roses without denomination codes? The exhibition name of that rose is 'Comtesse de Provence,' so that's where it is listed alphabetically, even though most of us refer to the rose as 'Liv Tyler.'
Rose (Rosa 'Comtesse de Provence')
As for the trade names, we also depart from ATP Database protocol in the Rose Database in that case, because a rose usually doesn't have only one trade name. It can have numerous trademarked names -- one for France, one for Germany, one for Italy, one for the United States, etc., etc. It's only the name that's trademarked, after all, not the rose.
