This whole thread prompted me to start researching some of my roses in our database. I have 'Beverly' on order from Palatine, and now I see that it is the same as 'Pink Perfection', which i already grow. Sigh. Last date for orders for fall delivery was October 31. I sent an email to Palatine anyway, begging them to remove Beverly and add Marilyn Monroe to my order. I'm hoping Marilyn is a tougher rose grafted on multiflora. I've killed 2 Marilyns already. Pope John Paul II is another one I considered, but I think I can find it locally and it may be resilient enough on Huey. Temps here are staying in the mid 70's for at least another week, so I'm pre-digging holes for the Palatine roses. My Regan order will come next April, so most likely some of those will replace weaklings who don't survive the winter. Really wish I had fed the roses in August. Several of the ones I really love are down to single canes. I think all I can do at this point is mulch them well in December and cross my fingers, right? Or not?