turini said:Mother of 'Little Miss Sunshine' is 'Bronze Pastel', Father unknown. Mother of 'Bronze Pastel' is S. marmoreum ssp. erythraeum ex (from) RILA - Bulgaria, father of 'Bronze Pastel' is S. marmoreum 'Chocolate'
Shirley's Joy has been nothing but a disappointment. This cultivar every winter dies back to the brink of death, then as the growing season progresses it recovers but never looks outstanding in my zone 7 garden. My Sempervivum gardens are covered during the rainy season and still this cultivar is a poor performer.
This sempervivum has been culled from my collection after repeated winter damage even when covered all winter. Seems to almost die and then when spring comes it rebounds but never looks outstanding. Many other cultivars that will perform better can replace this.
There is a lot of confusion surrounding the naming of this sempervivum. S. 'Donar Rose' should look like the top photo, with tufting at the tip of the leaves and relatively long cilia along the leaf edges.
There is a lot of confusion surrounding the naming of this sempervivum. S. 'Donar Rose' should look like the top photo, with tufting at the tip of the leaves and relatively long cilia along the leaf edges.
Rosa Spumanti and Spumanti are siblings but individual cultivars. Spumanti was a volunteer seedling that was profusely netted and that produced many small offsets so that when grown in a container it appears to be foaming over, hence the name Spumanti (foam or sparkling in Italian). Rosa Spumanti is similar except the rosettes are slightly larger and blushed with red and not quite as 'sparkly'.
I'll take a look at the chapter this evening.
Truls
Wild Ginger Farm
24000 Schuebel School Rd
Beavercreek, OR 97004
Rosa Spumanti and Spumanti are siblings but individual cultivars. Spumanti was a volunteer seedling that was profusely netted and that produced many small offsets so that when grown in a container it appears to be foaming over, hence the name Spumanti (foam or sparkling in Italian). Rosa Spumanti is similar except the rosettes are slightly larger and blushed with red and not quite as 'sparkly'.
I'll take a look at the chapter this evening.
Truls
Wild Ginger Farm
24000 Schuebel School Rd
Beavercreek, OR 97004
JungleShadows said:Lynn,
BTW I did hear from Janis Noyes that Gary did change the name from 'First Try' to 'Pacific First Try' even though it was introduced without the "Pacific" part.
JungleShadows said:There's an amusing story on 'Streaker'. When Ed sent in a picture of that plant to he Sempervivum Society Peter Mitchell didn't believe it and said "It must be an Aeonium". Of course that was really silly as Aeoniums would have NEVER survived the winter in OH!
I was surprised it is still around as it is such a slow grower. Even Ed, who could really grow them well, only had a few plants after several years.
turini said:Patty,
'Murtal' means in English: Valley of the river Mur.
The river Mur is in Austria, in the province of Styria (Steiermark).
In that Murtal there grow several Semps in the environment, like S. pittonii and S. montanum ssp. stiriacum.
And another roller, the Sempervivum globiferum ssp. hirtum (hillebrandtii) from Gulsenberg.
Gulsenberg means Mount Gulsen (from where we know the S. pittonii as well). This mountain is in the 'Murtal' too.
This is S. globiferum ssp. hirtum (hillebrandtii) from Gulsenberg, a wild form, only to be found on a small place (like pittonii):
10/29/2015
I look forward to seeing what you get from the 'Rita Jane' seedlings. That could be very interesting.
JungleShadows said:Lynn,
All the ones of Sandy MacPherson's except 'Oddity' were from bee crossed seedlings that appeared in the garden. If I had to guess i would say 'Purdy's 70-40' as a parent as it has such wide leaves too.
The seedlings from 'Rita Jane' are showing extremely wide leaves but of course not much color at the moment.
OK out to the garage to clean seed. Good job for a rainy miserable afternoon!
Absolutely love this semp! One of my all time favorites. Goes through many color changes, but unlike most semps this one has fantastic colors even during the hottest part of the summer. It's a large plant with many of mine being 9" +. I have it planted in several places in my yard and it looks a bit different in every area, but always beautiful. Produces lots of chicks once established. Give it plenty of room to grow.
Great semp, quite large and goes through lots of color changes. Produces many offsets, so give it plenty of room to grow. An added bonus is the beautiful watermarks. Most semps have pink flowers, but this has a creamy off-white flower with a green stripe down each petal, and the flower stalks are huge!
I find 'Oddity' to be quite temperamental when planted in the ground in our zone 4 climate. It tends to rot in the spring from too much moisture when the snow melts. I built a bit of a mound for it this summer with lots of grit incorporated into the soil. We'll see if that helps.
I received this information from Matts Jopson, Director of Sales & Marketing.
Matts Jopson said:This is actually a strange variant of ‘Silverine’ that we found mislabeled amongst our old stock of Sempervivums. We couldn’t figure out what it actually is called, so we just decided to name it ‘Pinkerine’ to contrast its color with the original ‘Silverine’.
If you have any other ideas about what it could be, I’d love to hear them, because we do strive for accuracy in our listings.
Thanks,
Matts Jopson, Director of Sales & Marketing
It is unkown whether it is a seedling amongst the group of 'Silverine', or an actual variant of 'Silverine'.
In either case we cannot show the breeder as Sandy MacPherson, but it sure is a beauty.
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