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Nov 19, 2015 3:25 PM CST
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Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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I added two packs of Kosteletskya petacarpos, 15+ seeds each.
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Nov 19, 2015 3:41 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I just activated these:

"Chinese" Snow Peas. Pole - 5' vines. OP. 70 DTM.
Pods stay sweet & tender even when large. Leafy young tendrils for soup.
Territorial #PE627 (2013).

and


Lavatera:
Tree Mallow (Malva thuringiaca subsp. thuringiaca 'Rosea')

syn. Lavatera x clementii [P Zone 5]
Collected Summer 2015 from my yard.

This is a little aggressive about re-seeding if you don't deadhead it. Tall, woody, perennial plants that I cut down to 6" each Fall or Spring. Prefers dry, poor soil or clay. Tends to shoot up tall and then flop if pampered.

Unless some neighbor has a Lavatera that doesn't show from the road, these were isolated from any cross-pollination. I had many growing on my property, all from one shipment from Hirt's Nursery, so I expect this seed is "pure something". Everything that has re-seeded looks exactly like the parents, over 3-4 years.

However, Hirt's called this 'Barnsley', a "periclinal chimaera" of the cultivar 'Rosea', but it looks exactly like the cheaper, common 'Rosea'. Maybe it reverted to plain pink before the first tiny plant grew up. Probably it really was 'Rosea', so seed should come true.

If really 'Barnsley', seed might be hybrid F2: variable offspring. (That is, if a "periclinal chimaera" has variable offspring when self-crossed. I don't know.)
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Nov 19, 2015 3:54 PM CST
Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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Just added a small amount too -

I thought I saw someone had Mississippi Silver cowpeas on their wish-list, so made a pack.
One pack was with @SCButtercup in mind, some cabbage collards.
And a few packs of salvias.
May your life be like a wildflower, growing freely in the beauty and joy of each day --Native American Proverb

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Nov 19, 2015 7:42 PM CST
Name: Andi
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10b)
Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap
I can't find the snow peas!

Rick, are any of your lettuces especially pretty? I am good at growing lettuce! I want to have lots of beautiful edible greens in my future kitchen garden - once I get someone to help me move the -heavy, ugly park bench in the way! The bench (assuming it survives the move without needing new wood planks) will be getting a makeover next summer . It will be near the new fire pit where it belongs!
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Nov 19, 2015 7:58 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
>> I can't find the snow peas!

My bad! I made them "available", but didn't turn the gray check green. It's green now.
It alphabetizes under "Snow pea".

Sorry!

>> Rick, are any of your lettuces especially pretty?

Meh. Not what's listed, mostly. Lettuce (Lactuca sativa 'Breen') is a bronze-red Romaine type.

For "pretty", or at least colorful, try these, which I haven't listed, but might if I find time and have enough left.
Any I do find and add, I will list here.

'Marvel of Four Seasons' = Merveille des Quatre Saisons Butterhead type
Lactua sativa 52 days - ruby-tipped leaves & icy-green heart. Reliable production all season

'Flashy Trout's Back' = 'Forellenschluss' - Dark green with wine-red speckles
Austrian heirloom. Lactua sativa - Loose, open head romaine
OP variety, 55 DTM - rich buttery flavor - Johnny's Seeds 2013

Select Salad Blend - color & flavor - harvest young 45-50 days - Livingston Seeds for 2012
20% Crimson Butter
20% Red Salad Bowl
20% Iceberg 20% Bibb
20% Lolla Rosa

Baby leaves of either of these would be pretty in salad:
Bok Choy (Brassica rapa 'Red-Violet')
Pak Choy (Brassica rapa 'Taipai Red')

I happen to think that Michihli Chinese cabbage is gorgeous when mature, but it is green. When young, it would be good in salad:
Chinese Cabbage (Brassica rapa 'Michihili Jade Pagoda')


Also check out the "Mustard, Deep Purple, Neseeds #31669" for looks. But it is mustard, not lettuce!
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Nov 19, 2015 8:12 PM CST
Name: Andi
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10b)
Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap
Thank you! trying the snow peas.

I didn't do well with peas this spring because the snow stayed on the ground too late! When it finally thawed it was too wet then too hot. I should plant peas in March (around my grandmother's/aunt's birthday) but I couldn't think of planting seeds directly in the ground until nearly Memorial day last year.

the past two years were unusually cold and snowy. I'll see what this winter/spring brings...
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Nov 20, 2015 9:55 AM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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Just added 3 packs Blue eyed grass
..a balanced life is worth pursuit.
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Nov 20, 2015 10:27 AM CST
Name: Andi
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10b)
Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap
I saved some seeds from blue eyed grass this spring....now where did I put them....and the hot pink grassy plant that I never got around to looking up....


Nice fall day for cleanup and seed gathering in the Poconos.
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Nov 20, 2015 12:42 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
>> When it finally thawed it was too wet then too hot

For me, "too wet to direct-sow peas" describes all of spring and early summer. When it's cold and wet, they rot. When it's cool and wet, they rot. It helped one year when I put up plastic on a frame that shed rain away from the raised bed. It dried part way out earlier. And pre-soaking or even pre-germinating helps.

But my summer is cool enough that I can plant peas late.
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Nov 20, 2015 1:32 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Added 3 new seeds -- come and get 'em! Smiling

Old-fashioned Bleeding Heart (Dicentra spectabilis)
Perennial Bachelor Button (Cyanus montanus)
White Goatsbeard (Aruncus dioicus)
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Nov 20, 2015 5:44 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I added two radishes, alphabetized under "Radish". They are old seeds, 2011, but there's 1/2 tsp each.

I added around 5 new lettuces, mostly 2013, mostly 1/2 tsp or 1 tsp. Some list under "butterhead" and some list under "Lettuce".

However (my bad) some of those already existed in my swap list. For now, I left the duplicate rows in place, which might confuse Dave's feature that tells you when you have already dibbsed an item. But I have enough seeds to cover the quantities listed in both rows, combined.
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Nov 20, 2015 6:26 PM CST
Name: Andi
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10b)
Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap
My grandmother planted peas every year around her birthday. every year we had peas. I do the same....but....afgh. I'll keep trying.

She also planted her tomato seeds in cut milk cartons in February, set them on the dining room windows. By summer,. we had tomatoes galore! The plants never damped off, always produced, no problems. She didn't use fancy cultivars or gear. She was beyond frugal.

We planted orange pips, avocado pits anything I thought about. They grew too!

I wish she were around to give me some pointers. She would have gotten a kick out of sharing seeds with people all over the world and hearing about their lives and gardens.
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Nov 20, 2015 7:01 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Weedwhacker said:Added 3 new seeds -- come and get 'em! Smiling

Old-fashioned Bleeding Heart (Dicentra spectabilis)
Perennial Bachelor Button (Cyanus montanus)
White Goatsbeard (Aruncus dioicus)


Now that I found them and requested one of the three packets, I'll point out that
"Perennial Bachelor Button "
alphabetizes under "M".

Mountain Cornflower (Cyanus montanus)

Thanks!
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Nov 20, 2015 7:08 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
You're right, Rick -- it didn't occur to me that it would make it hard to find if I called it by the name that I use, instead of the name that the DB uses. Another reason why I would prefer it to list according to the scientific name. (I also know it by the synonym Centaurea montana, at least I didn't throw that in to add to the confusion Rolling my eyes. )
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Nov 20, 2015 7:21 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Where is Humpty-Dumpty when we need him? He knew the difference between what a thing is called, and its name.

Actually I think this is one tiny aspect of The Librarian's Problem. You can have all the information in the world, but it doesn't help if you can't find what you want.

Same goes for seeds.

But "filter and search" works even though common names are hybrids of Chaos crossed with Confusion.

Nomina ambigua and Nomen illegitimum!
Don't let the common names get you down.
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Nov 20, 2015 7:25 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Maybe we should just have to post everything in Latin -- the universal language Rolling on the floor laughing
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Nov 20, 2015 7:53 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Weedwhacker said:Maybe we should just have to post everything in Latin -- the universal language Rolling on the floor laughing


Non dico!

Insanus es!

Non praemium caput meum!
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Nov 20, 2015 7:59 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
I can't even understand the translation (by Chrome)

"I do not say! You are crazy! It is not a reward for the head of my hard disk!"

I almost hate to think about what the last part might be...

Blinking Rolling on the floor laughing
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Nov 20, 2015 8:05 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Online translators render "out of sight, out of mind" as "invisible idiot".

I was trying for:

Don't say that!

It's crazy!

Don't make my head explode!
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Nov 20, 2015 8:21 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Evidently we should not depend too heavily on the online translators!

Thanks for listing the beans -- all my faves are Romano types, and I love pole beans because they take up so little room and save one's back in terms of picking. Have you ever grown the black-seeded version?

I grew quite a few varieties of beans last year -- if anyone is interested I could offer one pack of about 25 seeds of each:
Kenearly Yellow Eye (bush)
Canadian Goose (bush)
Appaloosa (bush)
Cranberry (bush)
Improved Golden Wax (bush)
Snowcap (pole)
Musica (pole, green Romano type, much like Northeaster)
Rattlesnake (pole)(lots of these available)
Swiss Landfrauen (pole)
Grandma Nellie's Yellow Mushroom (pole, yellow bean)
Limelight (bush; developed as a "lima bean for the north")
Sadie's Horse Runner Bean (small pack of 5 seeds)
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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