I am trying to remember where I saw the seeds for sale. When I remember, I will send you a tree Mail. As for hot lips, I have never seen seeds for sale. I bought mine at Master Gardeners plant sale. Because this is perennial, maybe it must be propagated from cuttings? Not sure that is right either, I have seen seeds of other perennial salvias for sale. I will get back to you,
@karimari.