If you are selling something you want to have the "best" possible pic of it, I get that. From a buyers perspective I don't want to be paying a big price for a great looking picture and the bloom not living up to expectations. I am sure that happens all to often. I am hoping to avoid that with what I have ordered. It is too easy to look at some of those pictures of those pinks, purples, reds, yellows and fall in love, lol. As a seller they know that, or most do. So I double check what people post here in there gardens and see how different if may look. How it looks faded and anything else I may be able to tell from the pictures. I mean I have already seen a few that the sellers pic looks so much brighter or vivid than any other pics on either site.

I agree Cat. Sometimes they look so photoshopped that there is no telling what the bloom really looks like. I'm not saying that this is a common practice, but some don't even look real to me. When compared to pictures of the same plants in the database, you begin to realize that some of them aren't truthfully real. I know that they want to put the blooms best picture out there, but I think it is cheating to do any color correcting to make it look more vibrant.

I would say the name thing is basically the same. If you are selling me what you are calling "Little Bo Peep" (just threw that out there) and it is not registered under that name then first of all, Shame On You! Second, shame on me for not checking out what I am buying if at all possible. Even if you don't want to hybridize it could matter. You may decide you want more and could be searching for the wrong daylily for example. LA scares me a little for that reason. I did buy from 2 people that sell on LA. One belongs to and is well known on the Region 2 Robin. The other sells on LA and she has her own website and daylily garden she also sells from. I am not sure if she belongs to AHS, I am sure she does. They are both in my region and I hope I did my homework. I tried to check out everything I bought.

We were discussing name issues on another thread on here, and All-American daylilies came up. That is a company that you need to be very careful with. They sometimes put their own names on named and registered daylilies. I've got one myself. I do know that they sell some with the proper names, but I would never, ever, buy a daylily from them, just because they are unethical, in my opinion. I bought Dream Souffle, and it is beautiful. I found out later that there was no daylily that was registered with that name. That is because it's actually Dublin Elaine, which I found out from the other thread. Chaps my hide that they "stole" it and put their own name on it, and then had the nerve to trademark the name.

I just went to their site, and checked some of the ones that they have listed against the AHS database They have one with the name of Summer Valentine, and it isn't even close to the real Summer Valentine. There is also Lady Elizabeth, which on their site, is a white daylily. The database has one from 1948 that is a yellow. Lavender Vista, on their site, doesn't match the description of the registered one. Same with Plum Perfect, and Lady Lucille. A few have the correct names on them, but that doesn't make up for the others.

Not really any way you can keep a daylily from being stolen like that is there?

No, but just because you can, it doesn't make it right. I'd really like to know which daylilies they are really selling, where they have changed the names. I was so happy to get the correct name for Dublin Elaine. I really love it, but refused to use it for hybridizing because of the fake name that was added to it. Now I will use it!

It is certainly not a good practice! All-American , they sell at the big box stores? I will steer clear of them for sure!

I bought my one and only plant at Home Depot. It was HUGE, and on sale, so at least that part was good! I totally got my money's worth, as far as the plant itself was concerned. It's just the issue that I have with the company changing some of the names. They do sell a few with the correct name on them, but I will never buy another plant from them. Most of us buy daylilies from someone that wasn't the original hybridizer. I see nothing wrong with that, as long as the proper name is one them. Or, if it's not registered, sell it as an unregistered daylily. Again, there is nothing wrong with that, as long as the seller is being honest about it.

Cat said: LA scares me a little for that reason. I did buy from 2 people that sell on LA. One belongs to and is well known on the Region 2 Robin. The other sells on LA and she has her own website and daylily garden she also sells from. I am not sure if she belongs to AHS, I am sure she does. They are both in my region and I hope I did my homework. I tried to check out everything I bought.

I will say that the lily auction is one of the safer places to buy from. Usually if there is a mistake and you get the wrong plant it is an honest mistake. Mike Longo (auction owner) expects sellers (and buyers) to abide by the rules (and there are a lot of rules for sellers if you read them). If there is ever a problem he will do everything he can to help correct it if you cannot work it out with the seller/buyer first. If you don't abide by the rules he will block you or ban you from the auction in a heartbeat. That is one reason if he cannot verify you through the initial registration info or if you have a public email (Hotmail, yahoo, etc) he will ask you for proof of who you are like a driver's license or a copy of a bill.

Mike also had rules in place that if you are selling a daylily with a name it has to registered with the AHS and if it is not registered it has to be listed in the seedling section. Just like "Best Edge" will always be listed in the seedling section when it is sold on the auction because it is not registered, however, everyone refers to it by "Best Edge". If you look it up in the parentage on the AHS it is listed as " Kaskel sdlg, aka Best Edge"

Sounds like Mike has the LA well covered and that should make people rest easier when buying. I like the way the wording is on Best Edge, plus it also identifies the hybridizer.

I had heard about All American before and just went to the website to check out what they were selling. I only see 20 daylilies! I would have expected to see more.

On second thought, maybe I won't give my NOID's garden names. It might be less confusing just to keep them what they are. Pretty NOIDs!

I feel most safe buying from venders through LA.

Last year and this last winter, I bought over $3000. from LA venders and I will buy again this coming winter.

To the OP- I have what I bought as Organized Chaos, a Salter daylily that was never registered. Another hybridizer registered a different daylily under the name Organized Chaos, so now I'm not sure what to call it. Never bothered to find out if the Salter's registered it with a different name or not. I still have it labeled as Organized Chaos. I guess I should change the label to show that it is unregistered or something. Here's the daylily in question:

Tepelus said:To the OP- I have what I bought as Organized Chaos, a Salter daylily that was never registered. Another hybridizer registered a different daylily under the name Organized Chaos, so now I'm not sure what to call it. Never bothered to find out if the Salter's registered it with a different name or not. I still have it labeled as Organized Chaos. I guess I should change the label to show that it is unregistered or something. Here's the daylily in question:

That was an issue with the Salter's, not registering their daylilies but actually releasing them with names (sometimes the names were already taken and they didn't check) and then taking months to get it done and sometimes a year. Mike Longo will not let those be listed on the auction (although a few may slip by) in the registered cultivar section and must be listed in the seedling section. Some people tried using them in daylily shows and found out they couldn't because they were not officially registered and then the selling issue on the auction as well as the names having to be changed because it was already taken (not the only hybridizer's to do this).

I believe they have taken care of this now and that is why it has taken so long for their website to be done; the web master had said it would be updated once the names were actually registered and he had the info on them.

I would ask the Salter's what the daylily is actually called now as I'm sure it was registered with a different name

Michele, that is nice to know. I think most people on the LA are honest. Just there are always some people out there trying to take advantage of others. I am glad there are rules in place to try to protect people from that. I do feel better about buying from there now. Thanks!!

Thanks, Michele. Once I figure out how to shoot them an email I'll ask them. Drives me nuts not having things with their proper names.

Tepelus,
This is their site, listed in another thread, but I don't see any e-mail address, does give snail mail and phone numbers though.

http://salterdaylilies.com/ind...

Oh yes I forgot they don't have an email on their site, just the web masters email. You would have to call.

It would definitely be worth finding out if they ever registered that one. It is very pretty!

That is interesting about All American Selections. I had always assumed that they were just selected for excellence of performance in a wide range of climates. I contacted Oakes to ask about Lady Lucille and another question, but only the other question was answered! When I refer to Lady Lucille, however, I am referring to the cultivar sold by Oakes which I have had for years. I would think that maybe the hybridizer of the 2012 registered Lady Lucille (which appears to be a totally different plant) might have some unhappy moments when people return it because it isn't the plant they intended to buy. Of course, he is not responsible for an identical name on an unregistered plant. There are lots of unregistered plants with names that are sold as such like Reuther's Brown Spider. What I miss about the non-registered ones is the information that you usually get when you look it up, such as height, season, etc.

I purchased a plant from a local grower. He called this yellow, spidery plant BLOOMER. LOL, that is a good name for it. It has a nice golden, yellow bloom and is so fertile that almost every bloom makes a pod. I wonder if it is really a registered plant and he just misplaced the name. All of his others were tagged and he doesn't hybridize.