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Apr 23, 2015 9:21 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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wow I am not that versed on lilies.
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Apr 23, 2015 9:26 AM CST
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Pink Perfection, Golden Splendor and Midnight are all sold as strains.
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Apr 23, 2015 11:47 AM CST
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so what is the difference between the 2 then??
if they clones they would all the be the exact same right??

not sure I understand all this
fill me in please
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Apr 23, 2015 12:15 PM CST
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You are correct, clones are all genetically the same and derived vegetatively (not seed) from one original plant. Seeds introduce variability from two parents. Reputable sellers will indicate if the lilies are a strain.

For example, from The Lily Garden catalog, Summer Palace is described as "...our own strain of lovely, long flowered and tremendously fragrant pink trumpets! The colors vary in intensity but are always truly pink".
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Apr 23, 2015 12:37 PM CST
Name: Joe
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To further expound on Connie's statement, so if something is marketed as a strain, the parents will vary but they will be grown from seed and have a large degree of similarity between seedlings. That's why if you order three bulbs from a strain, there will be slight differences between the bulbs where if you bought three bulbs of 'Giraffe' you are getting the same exact plant and the only variability would be due to growing conditions, not genetics.
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Apr 23, 2015 12:56 PM CST
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Caveat to Joe's post: This assumes you are buying from a reputable grower... Lily Garden, Lily Nook, Valley K etc. If you purchase from a plant generalist (sells all kinds of plants and bulbs) you get pot luck. Just speaking from experience (and a bit of fussiness regarding my lilies Big Grin )...
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Apr 23, 2015 5:31 PM CST

Ok, then. Is Lankon a strain? Or a clone?
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Apr 23, 2015 6:11 PM CST
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Someone besides me needs to answer that one. As I recall, when it came out it was said that it was a group of similar lilies. Then I heard that it was just one clone that was quite variable. Honestly, I don't know what the truth is on Lankon. I don't think it is a seedling strain though.
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Apr 23, 2015 6:39 PM CST
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I think I will have most of the strains this year that you mentioned........ should be interesting to see how they all turn out here......

Lankon is very pretty though..........

Siliverlake I wander if you have a tiger lily growing there....then can be tall and flutter in the wind with smaller flowers too......

So can you cross a OT to another OT or that does not work??. I heard you can hand cross two lilies as long as they were of the same type?? want to play around in the garden some with this, in the summer and see what happens.

I am wandering how this is going to work with the Regales in the garden here and other species lilies if they will cross with Regale easily and I know that Regale is not gong to let anything cross with it......as per say they will be just Regale's......

to stay on topic I have lots of casa Blanca's in my flower bed.......they are going to be picking flowers. My son ordered me a bouquet of them from a flower shop the other year for my bday in October and they lasted much longer then the other lilies that I have had in the house here given to me....... I find they very striking..
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Apr 23, 2015 6:42 PM CST
Name: Joe
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Ok from what I know. Lankon is a clone that the speckling will vary on due to growing conditions. I think that any Lily with the tango/sploching gene is somewhat variable but also some what constant. Example being Lion Heart. It's yellow with a large section of black overlay but it can be slightly more or less overlaid but the overall look is yellow with a solid overlay.
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Apr 23, 2015 10:17 PM CST
Name: Susan
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I have many favorites, but Robina is one that is always near the top of the list.

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Apr 24, 2015 3:53 AM CST
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'Pink Jazz' has top top my list, but really any lily blooming tends to be my favorite. Whistling
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Apr 24, 2015 4:37 AM CST
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stilldew said:I have many favorites, but Robina is one that is always near the top of the list.



I have 10 of them to be planted and they are stunning. nice to see a nice pic of them all blooming.
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Apr 24, 2015 5:37 AM CST
Name: Susan
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Robina smells wonderful. Not overly strong, but passerbys will notice it.
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Apr 24, 2015 5:39 AM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Yes, they're all pretty when they're blooming and at the same time, each is beautiful in their own unique way. I don't really have a favorite---I like them all. But I do have a higher appreciation for some than I do for others. That is, from the standpoint that it takes more than a pretty flower to make a beautiful plant. To me, everything about a plant must come together in perfect harmony, it's height, it's foliage, it's inflorescence, pedicel length, angle and spacing, reasonable bud count and flower size all must be in proportion to compliment each other---and it must be carefree and garden hardy. With that in mind, my choice is 'Seafarer'. They say beauty is always in the eyes of the beholder in different ways, but the way I see it, Seafarer represents a very high level of hybridizing achievement. So, I guess, if we could somehow translate appreciation into favorite as being the same, then Seafarer would be my favorite. Smiling



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Apr 24, 2015 7:24 AM CST
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now that is one Lily that I have never seen
very very nice.......
love the deep orange in the middle for contrast
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Apr 24, 2015 8:19 AM CST
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Nice symmetry.
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
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May 1, 2015 2:08 AM CST
Name: Anthony Weeding
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Candidum is my favourite - the Lily I recognised from childhood as a 'Christmas Lily'... Just the smell brings back so many memories!
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May 5, 2015 8:54 AM CST

gwhizz said:Candidum is my favourite - the Lily I recognised from childhood as a 'Christmas Lily'... Just the smell brings back so many memories!


So, I'm curious why you're recognize it as a Christmas lily. Though it blooms later than Easter in Pittsburgh, I think many would identify it with Easter here because of its pristine whiteness. Childhood corrolations fascinate me for sure.
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May 5, 2015 9:07 AM CST
Name: Joe
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Silverlake, Anthony is from a land down under where December is his June and July is his January.......up is down, right is left and if you didn't watch a wallaby fight a kangaroo while eating a Vegemite sandwich it was a bad day!

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