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Feb 19, 2016 8:46 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Rob and Sherry - Can't tell you how jealous I am of your long bloom times! Darn lucky. What are you feeding them?

Which I mean to ask Marilyn too - Rick and Roger hinted in an email to me that their Burseen iris "go crazy in our specially treated culture." Wish I could get a truck load of that. Or at least the recipe!
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Feb 19, 2016 11:09 AM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a semi-retired studio potter.
Irises Hummingbirder Hellebores Organic Gardener Dog Lover Daylilies
Region: Ukraine Region: California Dahlias Garden Art Cat Lover Vegetable Grower
Leslie, I'm a coupla hours north of Rob and Sherry in California (long state) - but after a brief flurry of iris blooms - two dwarfs and
Crimson King (love this antique) ,and my unguilaricus - nothing. But everything is looking lush and beautiful. I even like iris leaves!
It's amazing how our long-awaited rain has livened up everything. I need to be patient. It's like waiting for Christmas when you're a kid!

If you find out what Roger and Rick "specially treated culture" is, please share with all of us ! Green Grin!
One admired grower,, when I asked what her secret was, answered, "Growing in Salem, Oregon!"
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Feb 19, 2016 7:45 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Birds Bulbs Region: California Dragonflies Foliage Fan Irises
Keeper of Poultry Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2015
A couple more opened today.
'Starring Encore' (Spoon '08)
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My faithful, everblooming 'Spring Bliss'
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Yes Neal, I told Dave that he had to go out into the garden and take pictures of anything that popped into bloom when I'm in the Netherlands..

Any of you thinking of doing a midnight raid while I'm away... just remember the guard dog will be on duty.. He's highly trained in keeping my Iris safe...
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The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us.
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Feb 19, 2016 7:59 PM CST
Name: Jen Jax
Northern Kentucky (Zone 6a)
Region: Kentucky Dog Lover Irises Peonies Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Omg. How cute sherry!
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Feb 19, 2016 8:01 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Lovey dubby Lovey dubby Lovey dubby
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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Feb 19, 2016 8:09 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
I think I can fit your dog in my pocket. Hilarious!

Don't forget to tell us what you win tonight Sherry! I'm all ears!
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Feb 19, 2016 8:15 PM CST
Name: Jen Jax
Northern Kentucky (Zone 6a)
Region: Kentucky Dog Lover Irises Peonies Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 19, 2016 9:01 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
Oh Sherry -- I love your dog!! Don't you just love the *flat-butt* stand? Cracks me up!! Hilarious! Lovey dubby
Thoughts become things -- choose the good ones. (www.tut.com)
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Feb 19, 2016 9:27 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Carl Boro
Milpitas, CA (Zone 10b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Rick's secret is green manure followed by solarization. And they regularly rotate plots. He and Roger grow irises as well as any one. When they were on the tour for the National Convention the clumps of guest iris were some of the best I have ever seen.

Check out his Facebook Page and scroll down to the aerial photo of the garden and notice the fallow strips between the iris. Notice how much sun they get.
https://www.facebook.com/super...
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Feb 19, 2016 9:32 PM CST
Name: Darcy
Reno, NV (Zone 6b)
@irisarian...I'm with you - the snow just melted from yesterday's flurries. I don't have flower one even peeking up.
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Feb 19, 2016 9:33 PM CST
Name: Andrea
B.C. (Zone 5a)
Nice to see you have some blooms already. I am in the southern interior of B.C. Canada and I have another 2 months till I see any. We'll maybe the beginning of April if we have decent weather.
I really like that Hell Fire
Who carries that one?
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Feb 20, 2016 12:51 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Birds Bulbs Region: California Dragonflies Foliage Fan Irises
Keeper of Poultry Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Bluebird Haven Iris carries it Andrea.

Rob, I was the next to the last picked last night.. Which is where I've consistently been for the past two years.. Glare It was down to 'Little Marilyn Brown Baby' or 'Let's Fly' and I went with the latter. I'm not terribly enamored with it, but it may surprise me...


Schreiner's description paints it like the second coming..
http://www.schreinersgardens.c...
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Feb 20, 2016 2:18 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
Maybe it will surprise you!

When doesn't Schreiners embellish their irises. Hilarious!
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Feb 20, 2016 2:31 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
@Henhouse

Sherry, did you see these images of Let's Fly?
http://wiki.irises.org/bin/vie...
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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Feb 20, 2016 7:59 PM CST
Name: Niki
Bend, Oregon (Zone 6a)
Flowers are food for the soul.
Bee Lover Butterflies Daylilies Dragonflies Frogs and Toads Hummingbirder
Irises Region: Oregon Organic Gardener
Schreiner's really has marketing down.
I ordered Winesap from IrisHillsfarm, it's Hell's fire's offspring. I hope I like it.
"The Earth laughs in flowers."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Feb 20, 2016 8:37 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Pink Attraction today. Still weird and wonderful, have high hopes for the next bloom cycle.

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It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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Feb 20, 2016 9:48 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Birds Bulbs Region: California Dragonflies Foliage Fan Irises
Keeper of Poultry Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2015
lovemyhouse said:@Henhouse

Sherry, did you see these images of Let's Fly?
http://wiki.irises.org/bin/vie...


Well, that's much more encouraging...
The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us.
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Feb 21, 2016 1:45 AM CST
Name: Marilyn
Central California (Zone 9b)
Annuals Irises Dog Lover Composter Cat Lover Region: California
Butterflies Birds Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Since I wanted to know I re-read Rick & Roger's posts on Facebook about Superstition's iris culture practices, which are very unique. Carl gave the basics...here is more detail, with thanks to Roger Duncan who answered my questions with detailed information.

They transplant all their irises in September/early October into newly prepared beds.
The bed preparation begins with breaking the old bed down (after moving the irises to the new bed) via rototilling, then planting a cover crop in late October/early November. The cover crop mix is about 40% oats, 40% wheat, 10% vetch, and 10% other grains (barley, rye, etc) that becomes the 'green manure' when cut down and tilled in.

They plant the cover crop in late October or early November and irrigate it with sprinklers. They found that if they waited for the rainy season to start there was too much competition with the local migrating birds (redwing blackbirds and meadowlarks) who like to eat the seeds. The cover crop germinates in a couple of weeks and the grains grow slowly over the winter, then in late winter, the vetch germinates and twines up the grain stalks. Early next Spring when the soil is dry enough for the big tractor to get into the field, they get it cut with a flail mower and tilled in. At that time, the cover crop can be anywhere from 3 to 4 feet high. That is usually mid to late March or early April but has been as late as May in wet seasons. Makes no difference if the grains have formed seed heads because the solarizing will kill the seeds.

After the cover crop has been tilled in, they occasionally water the area to help it break down in the soil, then after a month or so they form the beds which are slightly raised with drainage ditches on both sides and down the middle of each 2-bed set-up so the rain flows away from the beds without causing damage. Then in late May or early June they put the plastic down to solarize. The plastic is actually greenhouse film with UV-inhibitors built in and is somewhat costly. Regular construction grade plastic would break down in a few weeks under the intense unrelenting blazing wall-to-wall every day California sun and 100-degree plus summer temps. In our climate Roger says solarizing gives the full effect in only 2 weeks if DONE RIGHT, but they leave the plastic on through the busy summer order filling season and then uncover the beds when they are ready to transplant in September and early October.

And so goes the cycle...transplant irises, till, plant cover crop , till, solarize, uncover, plant irises. In this way they use half of the ground for growing the current year's iris crop while the other half of the ground is being rejuvenated by the cover crop and solarizing for the following year.

BTW, only the commercial beds get solarized, the seedling beds get the cover crop, but no solarizing. They say it isn’t fair to properly evaluate seedlings grown under totally perfect conditions, thus those beds don’t get solarized. They started this cover cropping/solarization method about 20 years or so ago and they originally followed a University of California study, but have added some minor tweaks along the way. Not organic, but much better for the environment using mainly the sun and water and hardly any chemicals.

Warning label: this process works wonderfully in our Central California climate, but may not work as well or even at all in other climates.
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Feb 21, 2016 3:59 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Carl Boro
Milpitas, CA (Zone 10b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Great! I went looking for that but didn't find it. I had read it before. I'm glad you found it and posted it. I think one of the things that makes it work so well for them is that there are no big trees shading the beds. They get 100% sun on their beds. Given the right conditions solarization can sterilize the soil 12" deep or more.

Rick did tell me that they pull some of the plastic earlier to plant their new plants that they have ordered as they come in.
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Feb 21, 2016 6:10 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Butterflies Vegetable Grower Keeper of Poultry Irises Keeps Horses Dog Lover
Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Wisconsin Celebrating Gardening: 2015
That is a a similar process to what I used to do with my veggie garden, however with some differences. I'd till the soil after harvest and cover it with a layer of compost, moisten and then cover with black plastic. I used re-cycled tarps that I use for covering the hay. We don't get the intense heat like they do in California, so the black absorbs the heat and it gets really hot under there. I would switch between two areas and plant every other year. Now I have stolen so much of my area for the veggie garden that I don't have space there to continue to do it that way. In the fall the heat isn't intense enough to solarize, so the worms and insects will break down the organic material. By the time I was ready to uncover and plant, it was all mixed in and I could just pull back the tarps and plant. Now I do a modified version of that. I put down the tarps and cut holes into it and plant. I use them more as a mulch then for solarizing. Of course I can't cover the ground where I'm planting seeds, only where I plant things like tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, and the like. Here's what that looks like in my tomato patch.


Doing it this way doesn't solarze the soil, but merely acts as a mulch. I never used to have any issues with tomato blight when I did it the old way, Doing it this way it's come back. I've solarized a new spot in a different area now to start some kind of new garden, Most likely it will be for veggies, as I will need more and more space for iris seedlings. (And of course my never ending wish list!) Plus now I've started to have a quite a few Dahlias that I plant there too.
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