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Jun 30, 2021 9:12 PM CST
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Adeniums
Hi all, I am new to this forum. Need help on few things . I got one adenium from a nearby nursery 6 days back. It has few buds on it. My worry is the soil. It looks like clay soil. I read somewhere that we should not transplant new plants immediately after getting from nursery for 2 weeks . I am worried about the soil , adeniums don't like clay soil they need well draining media . So my question is , can I transplant adenium with buds to a new pot with better soil? Pl suggest.
P s. I am in Chennai , India where we have tropical climate and hardly get any winters here.


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Jul 1, 2021 8:50 AM CST
Name: James
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Yes ....sooner or later, you will need to transfer your adenium to a new pot - with a much faster draining potting media ...
but doing so now, you may loose your current flower buds

I am guessing the largest flower bud will be in full bloom by this weekend
I would wait until flowering is done ...then do a repot ...

Until repotting....water sparingly ....the clay will hold water much longer
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Jul 1, 2021 7:39 PM CST
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Adeniums
deepsouth said:Yes ....sooner or later, you will need to transfer your adenium to a new pot - with a much faster draining potting media ...
but doing so now, you may loose your current flower buds

I am guessing the largest flower bud will be in full bloom by this weekend
I would wait until flowering is done ...then do a repot ...

Until repotting....water sparingly ....the clay will hold water much longer


Thanks Deepsouth , so I should wait for the flower to bloom and I can repot when it still has flowers right ? Not flower to become spent .
I am asking this because there is beautiful adenium in our complex which flowers throughout the year. I have always seen it with flowers.

( I have one more adenium with me for past 2 years . I prune every year as suggested in some YouTube videos , it never bloomed. New Adenium has buds and I am sooooo happy to I will be seeings adenium flowers in my own garden Smiling don't want to loose it )
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Jul 1, 2021 9:22 PM CST
Name: James
North Louisiana (Zone 8b)
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Hurray! Oh yeah .... Welcome! to the adenium forums ...

you can repot now with flower buds ...but you might loose them all, because re-potting is a shock to the plant ...and adenium take forever to recover from most stresses (might take awhile) ...and repotting is a major stress

if you want to see a few flowers from your new plant ...go for it ....if not repot carefully, and it might pull through

once adenium "get over" stresses, they will take off in growth ...figure at least a month

make certain your new pot has drainage holes
your new potting mix should be mostly large grain sand, pebbles and rocks ...with very little organic material such as bark and coconut coir

fertilize with a 13-13-13 or 14-14-14 .... use a water soluble with all 7 of the micronutrients especially: Boron

in the tropics you will probably get another bunch of flower buds ...this season

prune early spring .... prune too late, may cut off all the flower buds ....prune too early, may cut off all the seed pods
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Jul 2, 2021 6:04 AM CST
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deepsouth said: Hurray! Oh yeah .... Welcome! to the adenium forums ...

you can repot now with flower buds ...but you might loose them all, because re-potting is a shock to the plant ...and adenium take forever to recover from most stresses (might take awhile) ...and repotting is a major stress

if you want to see a few flowers from your new plant ...go for it ....if not repot carefully, and it might pull through

once adenium "get over" stresses, they will take off in growth ...figure at least a month

make certain your new pot has drainage holes
your new potting mix should be mostly large grain sand, pebbles and rocks ...with very little organic material such as bark and coconut coir

fertilize with a 13-13-13 or 14-14-14 .... use a water soluble with all 7 of the micronutrients especially: Boron

in the tropics you will probably get another bunch of flower buds ...this season

prune early spring .... prune too late, may cut off all the flower buds ....prune too early, may cut off all the seed pods





Thank you so much for your suggestions. Hurray! I am still confused , at one time I want to repot as the soil is not good and on the other hand don't want to loose the flowers . Phew ! :D it feels like I am near a pit where can't jump also and can't wait also :d
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Jul 2, 2021 8:33 AM CST
Name: James
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Despite what I mentioned earlier about waiting to re-pot until after flowering ....I guess the best thing to do, is do what is best for the plant .... that is repot ....

have everything ready before repotting ...potting media mixed & ready

adenium potting media

Mix together:

1 Part: Coconut Coir -
1 Part: Redwood Bark (or) Orchid / Phalaenopsis Mix - Break-up, cut or crush larger stems & bark
1 Part: Poultry Grit (or) Pea Gravel > screen out dust
1 Part: Perlite - coarse > screen out dust
1 Part: Sand - coarse = Leveling, Horticultural, Builder's Sand > screen out fine sand & dust
1 Part: Lump charcoal - Break-up, Crush to 1/4" to ½" sized pieces > screen out dust
1 Part: Lava-rock – (volcanic cinders or pumice) > screen out dust

carefully remove from pot - disturb the roots as little as possible ..carefully knock off old clay ....rinse off the caudex with a hose ..... add about 1" layer of rock in the bottom of pot ....back-fill the bottom of pot with a hand-full of 2 of fresh potting media .... set caudex where you want it .... higher in pot A-Okay ....then back-fill around caudex ..... let sit a few days before watering in
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Jul 2, 2021 10:26 AM CST
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deepsouth said:
Despite what I mentioned earlier about waiting to re-pot until after flowering ....I guess the best thing to do, is do what is best for the plant .... that is repot ....

have everything ready before repotting ...potting media mixed & ready

adenium potting media

Mix together:

1 Part: Coconut Coir -
1 Part: Redwood Bark (or) Orchid / Phalaenopsis Mix - Break-up, cut or crush larger stems & bark
1 Part: Poultry Grit (or) Pea Gravel > screen out dust
1 Part: Perlite - coarse > screen out dust
1 Part: Sand - coarse = Leveling, Horticultural, Builder's Sand > screen out fine sand & dust
1 Part: Lump charcoal - Break-up, Crush to 1/4" to ½" sized pieces > screen out dust
1 Part: Lava-rock – (volcanic cinders or pumice) > screen out dust

carefully remove from pot - disturb the roots as little as possible ..carefully knock off old clay ....rinse off the caudex with a hose ..... add about 1" layer of rock in the bottom of pot ....back-fill the bottom of pot with a hand-full of 2 of fresh potting media .... set caudex where you want it .... higher in pot A-Okay ....then back-fill around caudex ..... let sit a few days before watering in



Thanks for explaining it so well 😊
Will do the same . As I watered it today will wait for a couple of days. As you suggested will do what is best for plant. I liked this idea. Flowers can wait , need to save the plant first. I am clear now. Thanks for taking time out and helping me out. 😊
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Jul 2, 2021 10:31 AM CST
Name: James
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Thumbs up Glad to help
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Jul 2, 2021 7:16 PM CST
Name: James
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Thank You! for the Acorn @GigiPlumeria
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Jul 2, 2021 7:20 PM CST
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You're welcome. I hope we have a moderator here that can put your soil mixture and repotting suggestions as "sticky". Whistling That would be helpful.
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Jul 4, 2021 8:39 AM CST
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deepsouth said:
Thumbs up Glad to help



Update on the plant.
I repotted today evening. Sad thing is root rot started. I saw few discoloured roots. Removed them, removed old soil carefully , washed it and applied cinnamon powder generously. As you suggested potted it in fresh soil with raised caudex. Have not watered it at all. Will water it after 2-3 days . I just pray that my plant survives. I am happy I sacrificed flowers for the plant. If waited too long plant would have been dead. Thanks for helping .:)
Will keep updated.
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Jul 4, 2021 8:41 AM CST
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deepsouth said: Thank You! for the Acorn @GigiPlumeria

What are acorns ? Sorry don't know about this. Can you pl clarify
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Jul 4, 2021 9:51 AM CST
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Here is a page that explains the acorns.
https://garden.org/special/aco...
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Jul 4, 2021 10:50 AM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
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@Aashna, I know how you feel. I have a really bad rot on 2 of my big adeniums and hoping they will recover nicely. Bad timing since we have daily rain now. I had the cut dry for 2 weeks. It still keep getting wet at the patio so one recovered right away, the other one the rot has progressed so had to let it dry and Callous longer. I will be posting progress at the
The thread "Chats about Adeniums" in Adeniums forum
©by Gigi Adenium Plumeria "Gardening is my favorite pastime. I grow whatever plant that catches my attention. I also enjoy hand pollinating desert roses.”
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Jul 4, 2021 11:36 AM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
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Aashna said:
What are acorns ? Sorry don't know about this. Can you pl clarify


Acorns are the fun currency here.
Thank You! @plantmanager, I didn't know how to explain acorns.

@Aashna, I gave you 5 acorns so you can buy an adenium micro badge.
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Jul 5, 2021 2:41 AM CST
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plantmanager said:Here is a page that explains the acorns.
https://garden.org/special/aco...


Got it . Thanks Smiling
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Jul 5, 2021 2:45 AM CST
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GigiPlumeria said:

Acorns are the fun currency here.
Thank You! @plantmanager, I didn't know how to explain acorns.

@Aashna, I gave you 5 acorns so you can buy an adenium micro badge.



Thank you Gigi Smiling I am new , still figuring out. I think I posted my query in a separate thread. Didn't know where to post. It seems I have to post in adenium chat forum ? I have 10 acorns . Pl suggest how should I spend. I would like to give acorn to you and deep south Smiling
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Jul 5, 2021 2:46 AM CST
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GigiPlumeria said:@Aashna, I know how you feel. I have a really bad rot on 2 of my big adeniums and hoping they will recover nicely. Bad timing since we have daily rain now. I had the cut dry for 2 weeks. It still keep getting wet at the patio so one recovered right away, the other one the rot has progressed so had to let it dry and Callous longer. I will be posting progress at the
The thread "Chats about Adeniums" in Adeniums forum


Gigi,

Luckily we don't have rains at this time , it's pretty hot here. I have not watered it at all. I didn't let the cut dry. Is it ok ?

Should I post update about my adenium in "chat about adenium" or here itself ?
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Jul 5, 2021 2:49 AM CST
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Aashna said:

Update on the plant.
I reported today evening. Sad thing is root rot started. I saw few discoloured roots. Removed them, removed old soil carefully , washed it and applied cinnamon powder generously. As you suggested potted it in fresh soil with raised caudex. Have not watered it at all. Will water it after 2-3 days . I just pray that my plant survives. I am happy I sacrificed flowers for the plant. If waited too long plant would have been dead. Thanks for helping .:)
Will keep updated.


Another update :
I repotted yesterday and today morning I saw beautiful flower. Looks like God gifted this flower as I tried saving it and giving it a new better home .:) fingers crossed.


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Name: Karen
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That's beautiful, @Aashna! Good luck!
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