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Sep 17, 2013 11:58 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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I have some stuff in a shopping cart at lazy s's including a white milkweed and the white aster. I just bought another white crape this one is Natchez, so majestic looking. I will train it on four stems. I can't wait to see it bloom.
I have some white flower seeds I got last year, I will check and see how many I have that would work for a moon garden.
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Sep 18, 2013 3:05 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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Santa Rosa is having the fall sale at 75% off so I am getting the Stokes Asters they have the white.
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Sep 18, 2013 6:28 PM CST
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Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
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Maybe we have it in Just The Perfect Spot, or maybe it's tapped into the sewer line or something.... but our crepe Myrtle 'Natchez' (at the house end of the Moon Garden) is an incredibly vigorous grower. It seems like we have to vigorously prune it at least every other year, otherwise it would completely cover our kitchen window. The bees swarm it when it is in bloom.
Evaluating an iris seedling, hopefully for rebloom
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Sep 19, 2013 3:44 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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They are very vigorous by nature. Not a dwarf variety that one would plant near a house. I am learning that there is a problem in america with bees disappearing. Could be overuse of pesticides but there is a big problem. I will do what I can to make them happy. Green Grin!
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Sep 19, 2013 9:10 AM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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You'd never know there was a problem with bees looking around here! Not only are we inundated with yellowjackets, wasps, and hornets, but there are also lots of bees this year. Makes it exciting trying to cut any flowers for the house!
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
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Sep 19, 2013 4:43 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
God is the only thing that matters.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 1 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Hibiscus Dragonflies Daylilies
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I read a wonderful article by a lady bee keeper, I think she was in her 70"s, It is called Colony Collapse Disorder and it is a mystery to even the smartest bee keepers. I will let you know if I find the article but anyway she said one day everything is fine and the nest day they are all gone, not dead they just disappear without a trace and leave their honey and queen behind. Whoa!

Update, Reuters claims that they have solved the mystery and it is a class of pesticides that is called neonicotinoids. This contaminates the pollen and causes the bees to have convulsions and become disoriented.

http://blogs.reuters.com/great...

Thankfully, I did not see no yellow jackets this year!! I cannot put up with those things. I do not mind the bees and only one wasp showed up in the garage but he left when we locked him out. Rolling on the floor laughing
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Sep 21, 2013 3:44 AM CST
Name: Vanessa
Northern Tablelands NSW Austra (Zone 8b)
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My parents-in-law in Sydney had the most amazing night flowering cactus with lots of huge white fragrant flowers on a multi-stemmed cactus taller than us. I think it's still there, but since my Mother-in-law died over sixteen years ago, it is not the same plant, as my Father-in-law hates it and hacks it right back all the time. It is very spiny and planted right beside the front driveway! Wish I knew the name of it, but I'm not a cactus person, since they mostly wont grow here.
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Sep 21, 2013 9:52 AM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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I have a bunch of starts of a night flowering cactus that another member gave me. Might the plant you're thinking of be this one?
Queen of the Night (Epiphyllum oxypetalum)
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Sep 22, 2013 4:48 AM CST
Name: Vanessa
Northern Tablelands NSW Austra (Zone 8b)
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Woofie that is a beautifull flower, but not the same one. This cactus had upright thick trunk-like stems as thick as your leg, with vertical ridges with spines along them. The flowers were kind of waterlily sized, and came straight out of the trunks.
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Sep 22, 2013 8:56 AM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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Wow, that sounds BIG! Hmm, wonder if someone over in the cactus forum would have any idea what it was.
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Sep 22, 2013 5:33 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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I think they might. Thumbs up
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Sep 25, 2013 7:26 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
God is the only thing that matters.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 1 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Hibiscus Dragonflies Daylilies
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Santa Rosa is having a sale on daisies. $1.99 each if anyone needs some for the moon garden. They say these bloom after the Shasta are finished, so you can extend your growing season, These bloom in Aug and Sept.

PERENNIAL of the WEEK

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Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Jul 9, 2014 10:53 PM CST
Name: Meredith
New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
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I was reading through for ideas. I want to add to the suggestion about using Near White Daylilies. A lot of daylilies will close up at night or just look mostly disintegrated by evening so looking for the ones listed as Extended bloomers would be helpful.
This means the flowers are open 16 hours or more. Ones I have that are Extended Near Whites are
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Jul 10, 2014 6:44 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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Thanks I will look those up since I am working on a moon garden right now. I was in the garden the evening before last and I noticed another that would be excellent and that is Pow Wow White coneflower, it was actually glowing, this coneflower clumps pretty quick and is excellent bloomer. If you like hostas and might consider one in the moon garden I have Paradigm and those white flowers do glow also in the moonlight. For a hosta the flowers do last a long time.


Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Jul 10, 2014 8:27 AM CST
Name: Meredith
New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
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Great one!
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Jul 10, 2014 1:02 PM CST
Name: Meredith
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At one point I tried turning a Part Shade area into a Moon Garden. I was doing pretty good at first but now it looks like Knautia macedonica has taken over. I only have one Digitalis left and I think the Shasta Daisy need more sun than this bed gives them. I also have had no luck with Clematis Josephine in this bed. I kept accidentally cutting her vines and she doesn't seem to grow anymore. I am lucky to have a single vine going up the Trellis. All my gardens are in need of some sprucing up. The weedier plants have taken over and the plants I tend to like more have pretty much disappeared. I blame it on the fact that I had a baby in May 2012, and I wasn't able to any gardening that year. I wasn't able to do a whole lot last year 2013 either because my 1 year old was so high maintenance. (boy) I also have two daughters so I just had no time. He is quite a bit easier this year but I still can't spend the hours in the garden I need to.
This was it at it's best... I got rid of those Oxe Eye Daisies, they were way too messy looking and weedy) for my taste.
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Jul 10, 2014 1:09 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 1 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Hibiscus Dragonflies Daylilies
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It looks beautiful!
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Jul 11, 2014 4:15 PM CST
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Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
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It looks very peaceful!

If this really is (was) a shade garden, then you may have to give up on the Shasta daisies and move to shade loving plants. This is going to be a challenge (I have a lot of shade in my garden, so I understand that, though in my case I am not constrained to white in the shade; my Moon Garden has the sunniest spot in the garden), and you may have to rely more on foliage than on flowers.

What you can grow will depend on just how much shade that area gets. If it is a partial shade garden, then there are some things you can try:

For annuals, there are always white impatiens.



For perennials, you may have to rely more on silver or variegated foliage plants:

(unfortunately this has blue flowers, but a *little* bit of color in the Moon Garden actually brings some life to it)







While gold does not show up that well in moonlight (or dusk and dark), I have found that a little bit of gold (or chartreuse) brings subtle but marvelous color to the Moon Garden. (Helichrysum petiolare 'Limelight' http://www.monrovia.com/plant-... is good for this; I think there may also be one in lemon, too.)



For partial shade shrubs, there are azaleas, camellias, and rhododendrons. You might also want to try a white-flowered Loropetalum, but I have found their flowers to be insignificant and not showy in low light.





You might also look at astilbes, Calla lilies (especially if you can get them with spotted leaves), and English primose.









Depending on whether or not you are snow covered in the winter, you can also try things like hellebores and white-flowered cyclamens.

Apart from the impatiens, most of these look to be spring blooming things. (I think there may be one more white-flowered azaleas which also bloom in the fall.) Therefore the bulk of your "white" may come from silver foliage or variegated foliage plants. Unless you live in an area that is going to be snow-covered in the winter anyway, you may have to be careful choosing your plants to have a good balance between dormant and evergreen ones, otherwise your garden patch is going to look very bare in the winter.

Hopefully this will give you some ideas of things to try.
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Jul 11, 2014 6:04 PM CST
Name: Meredith
New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
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Those are some great suggestions! Thanks, I have been having a hard time finding plants for part shade. I think part of the problem is there are some oak trees that are maturing more each year, on the left of there and that starts shading the bed around noon. So the plants on the left flop more due to having more shade. The first year I had less shade! So it is kind of morphing. I am going to pay close attention to this bed and figure out exactly how much sun it is getting.
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Jan 24, 2017 5:32 AM CST
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Marilyn, I must have missed this thread of many years ago. I have always liked the idea. I have only recently discovered that several of my daylilies and some of my seedlings are nocturnal. I also discovered, but have missed photographing, the large hawk moths that come to them first up in the evening. They seem to appear when I haven't a camera to hand.
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