But Joe... it's a dark halo.... What would that mean?

Hi Guys. is it normal for the bottom lily leaves to turn yellow while blooming?

Andries.

It's not unusual for the very bottom leaves to dry up... how far up the stem are you talking about?

Pic of the day...


Spotty little faces! Soooo many spots.

Welcome to the site Andries

Welcome to ATP and to the Lilium Forum, Andries!

Good to have more 'Southeners' to post Liliums in bloom!

In this Forum, we are lucky to have people with amazing knowledge (not found in the books I have read) and very generous to share. Ideally, post a close-up picture of the leaves' damage to get an accurate reply/advise.

You can see Andries' photo and discussion here:

The thread "Oriental Lily leaves turn yellow while blooming" in Ask a Question forum

Some pics. Having a red day! All seedlings:





'Budderlord':



Nectar pooling into droplets at the ends of the nectary furrows. Why have a never seen this before? Yesterday an LO dripped nectar on me when I moved it and today I noticed this. Seems so strange to have grown lilies for years and never had anything to do with lily nectar before. It's delicious!

Nectar--a pain in the butt when it gets on your camera lense, etc.

Except for with the heady fragranced trumpets, I don't think I've ever notice anything more than tiny beads of nectar.

A long while back I was complaining of how stingy Strawberries'n'Cream was with providing seed and setting pods on other lilies. I must have been imagining things because it seems like I have Strawberries'n'Cream seedlings everywhere this summer! Here's a few from just one cross - I was surprised at the colour/marking range in the seedlings:





And here's Lankon in the garden. It is as tall as me (somewhere in the vicinity of 5'6") and the fasciated stem is in the rear middle of clump:

I assume that Strawberries and Cream cross was open pollinated to get the range of flower shapes? There certainly are advantages to OP, or crossing with parents containing lots of different genes. I like the one on the left in the fifth pic, especially. Maybe it is just the Christmas season, but it reminded me of the spritz I make. I had some with color on both the inside and at the tips, but they didn't seem as appealing, so I discarded (I mean, ate) them.


The buds on those Lankon sure have a lot more color than mine ever do. Were all those stems originally planted as one single bulb (that divided over the year(s)? If so, when did you plant it?


edited for grammar

Spritz! What a shame you had to 'dispose' of them all!

I'd never heard of spritz cookies so I had to ask google. I think they're the same as we used to make when we were kids - just a basic biscuit (cookie) dough for forcing. We used to call them 'forcer biscuits'... because the shapes were forced out of the biscuit forcer - I mean press! I remember how much I liked changing the little pattern do-daddy things at the end. :D

I really like the 'spritz' lily flower too.

The pod wasn't open pollinated. I cap crosses afterward but I'm not fastidious about keeping the stigma clean before pollinating. I figure that little bit of room for contamination might be where the best lily will come from! But saying that I'm certain that all the seedlings had the same pollen parent. It's a white seedling that I've used a lot; downfacing but with reasonably complex ancestry including davidii and Mont Blanc. Looking at this range and others from this season from the same pollen parent has helped me form a picture of the several different 'ways' it can throw as a parent.

So, here's some more Mont Blanc descendants. Strawberries'n'Cream x Budderlord:


Sweet Surrender x Budderlord:

After your defense, Rick, of poor Sweet Surrender I relented on it as a possibly interesting parent. Look what happened!

Della, Nice to see the seedlings you are getting from Strawberries and Cream. I used it in crosses a number of years ago and am now using some of the resulting seedlings for further crosses. There is a lot of variability in the seedlings, and you can get some really nice ones.

As far as seed quantities resulting from the crosses, I checked my records and have had pods that produce only 4 or 5 seeds in a pod, but I have also had crosses producing in excess of 50 seeds in a pod. All depends on the other parent being used in the cross. Quantities held true when S&C was used as a pollen or pod parent.

Enjoying all your lily seedling pix. Keep up the good work !!

Below are siblings of My JoAnn x Strawberries and Cream

Thanks Hank, nice seedlings! Nice to know you've had some good results with S&C. I found many pods involving it were almost all chaff, but the good ones certainly have supplied a variety of offspring. I'm looking forward to seeing the future generations.

Sorry Rick, I forgot to answer your Lankon question. This is the second summer it's been in the garden. I planted 3 flowering size bulbs and a handful of tiddlers. And the rabbits had a good munch on them last year!

A couple more pics from the Sweet Surrender x Budderlord cross. Another one opened today... looks like she's quietly giving her brash brother an elbow in the back!

(And that's the forgotten kid in the background! )

Terracotta Warrior opened today, so I crossed it with a red 1c that needs more length in the stem and height in the pedicel.