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Apr 5, 2012 12:41 PM CST
Name: 'CareBear'

Amaryllis Cactus and Succulents Dog Lover Hostas Irises Region: Pennsylvania
Sempervivums
Mine are finally coloring up. Happy dance time. Got to post pictures of them. I'll put them in my old post 'all my semps look alike'. Thanks all for the encouragement. BTW all the above pictures look great!

I still didn't plant them up in a proper bed. I was planning to buy 'turfface' to work into the soil. Should I also use sand? or what is best for a new planting bed. The bed will be small. About 4 ft. X 4 ft. It gets late afternoon sun in Pa. zone 6 area. I do have compost available to me. Too much moisture retaining soil I thought would be bad.
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Apr 5, 2012 1:41 PM CST

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Stush,

You should find a local NAPA Autoparts store and check out their NAPA oil dry. The bag should say 100% Fuller's Earth and also be labeled as usable for cat litter, soil amendment, etc. That would make a great addition to your bed (and should be available in PA). I would also add course sand that has been washed, typically a builder's sand is available and not too expensive. Just make sure that nothing has been added to the sand. Avoid white sand or very fine sand. I also use a fine quartz gravel, around 1/4" in size if you can find it.

Here's a quick tip for you. Anything that you want to add to your semp bed, such as I've mentioned, should be tested. Add a sample to a jar of water and let it sit for a week or so after a quick rinsing. The water should remain clear and the medium you are testing should not get mushy.

Lastly, pine bark fines are a great addition. They will decompose slowly but do not retain a whole lot of water. Around here, I shop the suppliers to find "mini nuggets", then check to find the vendor with the smallest nuggets. Then I sift them thru hardware cloth (stainless steel mesh). I like the 1/4" mesh for this purpose. The bigger stuff left over goes for mulch elsewhere. Pine bark will stain the water brown if you test it, but is otherwise OK after a quick rinse.

You don't need a lot of soil in the bed. You can grow the semps in mostly gravel, sand, FE and pine bark. The use of materials that don't decompose or break down much means that your semps will not have to be replanted as often due to frost heave nor will you have to add mre media to the bed more often.
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Apr 5, 2012 2:00 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida (Zone 8a)
Walk in Peace / I'm Timber's Mom.
Miniature Gardening Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! I sent a postcard to Randy! Tip Photographer I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
Mules Garden Ideas: Level 2 Sempervivums Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: United States of America Beekeeper
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These are in my Wheelbarrow with a wire and a cloth on top for protection. Poor pampered things. But The labels fade. But love the colors...
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Apr 5, 2012 2:22 PM CST
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums Tip Photographer
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Twitch, speciosum is beautiful! Hurray!
There are two ways to live your life.
One is as though nothing is a miracle.
The other is as though everything is a miracle
- Albert Einstein.
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Apr 5, 2012 3:13 PM CST
Surprisingly GREEN Pittsburgh (Zone 6a)
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Good golly about the special soils!
Semper (always) vivum (living).
I fell in love with them because they seem almost indestructable.
I'm wrong about that, eh?
When you get into the special ones I mean....
SHOW ME YOUR CRITTERS! I have a critter page over at Cubits. http://cubits.org/crittergarde...
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Apr 5, 2012 4:59 PM CST
Name: Audrie
Parker, CO (Zone 5a)
Sandi, Love the "Irazou!" They are beautiful!!!

Twit, Love the S. "Speciosum!" Beautiful & Unique!!!

Charleen, love your semps in the wheelbarrow!!!

I love seeing all the pics!!! Can't wait to share some of my own!!! Hurray!
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Apr 5, 2012 6:54 PM CST
Name: 'CareBear'

Amaryllis Cactus and Succulents Dog Lover Hostas Irises Region: Pennsylvania
Sempervivums
twitcher,
Thanks for the advice. Some people grow them like weeds but I can't. Maybe with the right soil conditions I might have a chance. They were in window boxes all winter on my unprotected porch. Didn't seem to bother them. They multiplied and look great. They are planted in cactus mix with 50% perlite with a top dressing of course sand.

crittergarden,
Which Pittsburgh are you from? I'm from Pennsylvania.
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Apr 6, 2012 1:26 AM CST
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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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Critter, semps are pretty tough unless they're in soil that doesn't drain well. But they will do much better in "perfect" conditions.

Charleen, you're semps look very happy.

Stush, glad to see you're not giving up!
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Apr 6, 2012 8:28 AM CST
Surprisingly GREEN Pittsburgh (Zone 6a)
Rabbit Keeper Bee Lover Cat Lover Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Butterflies Hummingbirder
Dog Lover Birds Plant and/or Seed Trader Bulbs Echinacea Irises
As an immigrant to PA, I learned some stuff.
DID YOU KNOW that at some point, the US decreed that all the burghs, bergs, and burgs be standardized to burgh? And thus it remained for a few years until Pittsburgh successfully petitioned to get their H back. We are the ONLY burgh with an h on the end! And yet there are a few buildings around without it, built in those interim years. I got that little gem from WQED.
SHOW ME YOUR CRITTERS! I have a critter page over at Cubits. http://cubits.org/crittergarde...
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Apr 6, 2012 12:52 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida (Zone 8a)
Walk in Peace / I'm Timber's Mom.
Miniature Gardening Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! I sent a postcard to Randy! Tip Photographer I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
Mules Garden Ideas: Level 2 Sempervivums Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: United States of America Beekeeper
Thank you all. Lynn and Goldfinch got me addicted.... Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
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Apr 6, 2012 1:54 PM CST
Name: tabby
denver, colorado zone 5
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I finally off loaded the gobs of images on my camera and am slowly getting around to cropping and shrinking them. Here are a couple of images from early March when the semps were plumping up and getting some color:

Cebenense - new in 2011 from the co-op I think

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Ann Cristy (She's gotten redder since this pic)

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Solange

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And a cool spineless cholla I brought back from Tucson:


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Apr 6, 2012 2:38 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida (Zone 8a)
Walk in Peace / I'm Timber's Mom.
Miniature Gardening Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! I sent a postcard to Randy! Tip Photographer I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
Mules Garden Ideas: Level 2 Sempervivums Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: United States of America Beekeeper
I love CaCTUS TOO, THAT IS A BEAUTY!!!!
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Apr 6, 2012 4:59 PM CST
Name: tabby
denver, colorado zone 5
Charter ATP Member Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Plant and/or Seed Trader Sempervivums
Roses Ponds Irises Daylilies Region: Colorado Enjoys or suffers cold winters
A few more:
Pacific Blazing Star:

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Green Wheel not looking quite so green this time of year:

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An Orostachys all plumped up:



And really ugly cactus that looks dead but definitely is not. This is how it looks when dormant:
Fragile Prickly Pear:

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Apr 6, 2012 5:06 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida (Zone 8a)
Walk in Peace / I'm Timber's Mom.
Miniature Gardening Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! I sent a postcard to Randy! Tip Photographer I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
Mules Garden Ideas: Level 2 Sempervivums Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: United States of America Beekeeper
Oooooo!!! Those things are treacherous!!!!
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Apr 7, 2012 6:33 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
It's so good to see the colors coming back to the semps. Your dormant Fragile Prickly Pear looks cool. Nice pictures Tabby!
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Apr 7, 2012 1:21 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Pacific Blazing Star is really putting on a show.
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The Purple Passion twins:


Galahad - a favorite any time of year


Love the perfect shape of this Raspberry Ice
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Apr 7, 2012 1:26 PM CST
Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
Region: Canadian Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Tip Photographer Garden Ideas: Master Level I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
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Wow, those are all so beautiful everyone, love that PB Star, Chris.
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Apr 7, 2012 2:45 PM CST
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums Tip Photographer
Daylilies Roses Orchids Miniature Gardening Lilies Irises
Great ones!
There are two ways to live your life.
One is as though nothing is a miracle.
The other is as though everything is a miracle
- Albert Einstein.
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Apr 7, 2012 5:33 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida (Zone 8a)
Walk in Peace / I'm Timber's Mom.
Miniature Gardening Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! I sent a postcard to Randy! Tip Photographer I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
Mules Garden Ideas: Level 2 Sempervivums Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: United States of America Beekeeper
Beautiful!!!!
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Apr 8, 2012 2:27 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
All the colors are so pretty right now. Wish they'd stay like that all summer.

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