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Apr 18, 2013 8:20 AM CST
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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I think one of the reasons those dont look good, is they left so much of the leaves on, that is going to die back anyway. Were they advertised as SF's? Needless to say, they are smaller than some of the main sellers, but it looks like they trimmed the roots, as do I. I bet, and hope they do well for you. The first daylilies I ever had were the ones you buy in bags and are just dried up roots. Darned if they didnt get me hooked they did so well. Hope these flourish. I hope your pleased with ones still to come. Nothing worse than getting excited and then being let down.
Were those northern grown??
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Apr 18, 2013 3:31 PM CST
Name: Brian
Ontario Canada (Zone 5b)
There was no description as to single or double fans. I had assumed they were single anyway so that isn't the problem. The person they were bought from would appear to me to be a well known seller as their name has been mentioned here a number of times and always with high regard. As to northern or southern grower, to me it's quite a way south but I would think that they would be considered a northern grower (Indiana). I expected plants more in keeping with most of the nice healthy GREEN plants that people tend to post pictures of not these yellow dried up plants that I got especially for the price I paid for them ( not cheap). I know they will eventually do well but it's been my experience that plants like this tend to take up to 3 years to recover and bloom in my zone.
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Apr 18, 2013 3:45 PM CST
Name: Julia
Shepherdstown WV (Zone 6b)
Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Daylilies Hummingbirder Irises Region: New York
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bearsearch said:This was my first and probably last time I'll buy from the LA. I have to say that there really are some good honest vendors there but there are also the other kind that have completely soured my experience. I bought a fair bit of seeds and was VERY pleased with what I received from certain people but other vendors: a) didn't send some of the seeds I paid for and got angry at me for even suggesting that they may have made a mistake b) sent me seeds that were obviously dried husks and disintegrated in the package c) completely rotten d) the vender can't count (paid for 10 seeds and got 4). I have only received one of the plant shipments so far and can only comment on that one but the picture below says it all. These were soaked for 4 days because they were so dried and shrivelled up. It will take a few years in my zone for these to recover and start to grow well. I had also asked for the plants to be shipped late April / early May as it's too cold and wet to plant here earlier and these were received the first week of April. I had to pot them and since I don't have a greenhouse they are being starved for light till I can get them outside. I can only hope the other plants I bought are better.
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What daylilies did you get?
I didn't see in your post you mention the names.
Julia
Shepherdstown WV
Zone 6b
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Apr 18, 2013 4:43 PM CST
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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I got these today, keep in mind that one is a DF one a TF. If you take them apart, not much difference. Thing is, I knew these were from a backyard grower, and would be a bit smaller. If I got these from a FL grower, I would not be near as understanding. Im lucky not to have to wait as long as you up there in the colder weather.
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Apr 18, 2013 5:49 PM CST
Name: James
South Bend, IN (Zone 5b)
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They may not take as long as you would suspect if they came from a northern Indiana grower considering its a similar zone here. Also it's been a very cold spring so they likely haven't hit their stride.
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Apr 18, 2013 6:24 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
God is the only thing that matters.
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I got three daylilies from a person who lives only three hours away from me and I was mainly disappointed in the communication. The box arrived out of the blue on a hot day, lucky I was off because it was a Monday. I emailed this person and asked when was it shipped because I got no shipping confirmation. The package had been mailed on Saturday. Then I reread the listing and found this seller wanted the money in five days and I gave it in five minutes but six months later still no feedback, no 'thank you' for the order or payment, nothing and when it was shipped nothing. I sent an email and told this person what I thought and there will be no feedback on LA. I believe the plants will be fine, the bonus plant was the most yellowed but the others had good roots and I love these cultivars.
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Apr 18, 2013 6:37 PM CST
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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I have to admit Im kinda bad about feedback. I never look to see if someone gave it to me, and sometimes its a few months before I sit down and just try to do 'mass' feedback. If someone has hundred or thousands of sales, I figure one more isnt going to matter. I do eventually do it, and now that you can do bulk feedback it is SO much easier. I used to hate to sit there and try to figure something clever to write when you had gotten 12 packs of seeds or plants and you had to do each one seperate.
Ive done good this year, but I havent ordered that much either.
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Apr 18, 2013 6:49 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
God is the only thing that matters.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 1 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Hibiscus Dragonflies Daylilies
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At the time I ordered I was brand new. Feedback zero!! and six months later.....still nothing, but I am not saying anything negative, I just ain't saying nothing. I spoke to them privately., which is what I would like.
I was not paying attention to who was actually leaving the feedback, I just knew my number was very small. There was another seller who usually leaves feedback when he ships and I asked him if he would give me some feedback because I had none, and he did. What a sweetie, Mike44!! Hurray! Hurray!
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Apr 18, 2013 6:56 PM CST
7A (Zone 7a)
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virginiarose said:I got three daylilies from a person who lives only three hours away from me and I was mainly disappointed in the communication. The box arrived out of the blue on a hot day, lucky I was off because it was a Monday. I emailed this person and asked when was it shipped because I got no shipping confirmation. The package had been mailed on Saturday. Then I reread the listing and found this seller wanted the money in five days and I gave it in five minutes but six months later still no feedback, no 'thank you' for the order or payment, nothing and when it was shipped nothing. I sent an email and told this person what I thought and there will be no feedback on LA. I believe the plants will be fine, the bonus plant was the most yellowed but the others had good roots and I love these cultivars.


And you would think in this recession that any seller would be appreciative of $ spent on plants. Is it really that difficult to email a thank you and shipping notice?
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Apr 18, 2013 7:08 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
God is the only thing that matters.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 1 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Hibiscus Dragonflies Daylilies
Bee Lover Dahlias Butterflies Hostas Birds Lilies
Exactly! I started not to order but I really wanted the plant and her price was ok. This was the only seller I purchased from that wanted the payment within 5 days. The 'lecture' was similar to eBay.. Rolling my eyes. If not for paypal I would not have ordered, I have trouble remembering to go to the Post Office. Whistling
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Apr 18, 2013 7:23 PM CST
Name: Ann
TN
Butterflies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Daylilies Hummingbirder Ponds
Brian, it is difficult to tell how large the fans are. How long did it take the shipment to travel from Indiana to Canada? Do you think customs could have held up the shipment? I personally don't think they look too bad, but, of course, this was after they soaked for several days. If they came from Indiana, then the evergreen/semi-evergreen daylilies went through a winter that killed the foliage back then the foliage would grow again, only to get killed back over and over. By the spring the fans have used much of their stored energy trying to grow all winter that they start the spring much smaller than they were in the fall. It takes some time for them to beef up. The roots look good. I once had a shipment from a major hybridizer get lost for about a week and by the time the plants arrived they looked rather pitiful, all yellow. Within a week to ten days, you couldn't tell. All plants shipped to you bare root will lose some of the bottom leaves. I hope they grow and bloom well for you. There are some northern growers who dig and ship as soon as the daylilies start growing, while the fans are still puny looking. The big thing is to have a good root system. I personally would prefer that they be sent early and I can let them beef up in my own garden. I have received some of those GIANT fans from FL that split into many small fans and they didn't grow or bloom well. I personally prefer the average size fans and then I can fertilize, etc. in my own garden.

Susan, I am so sorry you had such a problem with your seller. I think sellers should treat buyers the way they would want to be treated - in communication, feedback, shipping notification, etc.
Ann (farmerbell); TN
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Apr 18, 2013 7:45 PM CST
Name: Mona
Guntown, Ms (Zone 7b)
I love nature & everything outdoors
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It's sad when we lose buyers because someone doesn't take a few moments to send out emails on shipment. I think the daylilies will grow out just fine, but the seed deal, that is really BAD! No excuse to send out bad seeds. I've bought alot and never had any problem to speak of. I sometimes do get a few bad ones, but most sellers will include extras to cover up for this loss. There is no excuse not to send the quanity of seeds solds, unless some were bad in the pack when they got ready to mail them. In this case, I would have contacted the buyer with the offer of a refund or substitute. I guess I'm a nut about seeds, but I check mine so many time prior to shipment for bad seed, I can't stand the thought fo shipping bad seed. No one can say for sure that they won't send out a few bad ones, but they shouldn't be many.

I typically get about 60-80% germination on my seeds that I buy and even my own seeds that I grow. I will ocassionally get a 100% BUT THIS is very rare. I read about folks getting this kind of germination, but I just don't have that good of luck.

I hope the seeds that you did get will grow for you. I really think your plants will recover rapidally. I grow all of mine in pots, well the new ones anyway. You should see new growth on those plants in just a few days to a week. It would be best if you could put them somewhere they can get some good sunlight, but if not possible, they will survive.

GOod luck, Mona
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Apr 18, 2013 8:46 PM CST
Name: Brian
Ontario Canada (Zone 5b)
Ann the plants didn't come to Canada, they went to my friend's place in Pennsylvania. He's actually in a colder zone than me. He lets me plant my daylilies there as I don't have much space also I don't want to pay for certificates. I just bring the seeds back. The one on the left is a bonus plant so I'm not talking about that one, the centre one is a dormant and the one on the right is a semievergreen. I don't know how long they were in transit but along with being shrivelled and yellow there was mould on some of the leaves. They are a good size as you can see they are in a dish pan approx. 8X10. That makes me think they were growing in a greenhouse. I just think that for $50.00 each they would have been in better condition. I understand what your saying about receiving your plants small and having them grow in your garden but I don't like having plants delivered when there is still snow on the ground and the probability of more on the way, they just end up potted and sitting in the cool garage reaching for the light.
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Apr 18, 2013 9:22 PM CST
Name: Ann
TN
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Mold is something one never wants to see on new daylilies. I hope you dipped them in a bleach/water solution. The fact that they were yellow, dry and moldy makes me wonder if they spent a long time in transit. I certainly hope they grow. I am so sorry that you had such an unpleasant experience.
Ann (farmerbell); TN
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Apr 18, 2013 9:27 PM CST
Name: Brian
Ontario Canada (Zone 5b)
Mona they do get put out in the sun on warmer days but this photo was taken before they were potted and they are starting to green up. Maybe I'm just being petty but I think if a customer who is paying over $100.00 for two plants asks for a specific shipping time (weeks not a specific day) because of conditions in their area then the seller should make some effort to accommodate them. I'm not at my friends all the time so he now has to take time out of his busy day to take them in and out until it's warm enough for them to stay out or I get there to plant them. As for the seeds I did get many seeds of excellent quality that have also had 100% germination and I will probably get seeds from those specific sellers again but the ones that sold me garbage will not get another bid from me.

I don't give feedback for sellers I have only bought one or two items from and I only give positive feedback to those that deserve it. I also did get some bonus seeds of the crosses I purchased but a lot of the bonus seeds received were from old, unregistered and uninspired crosses.
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Apr 18, 2013 10:12 PM CST
So Cal (Zone 10b)
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Thank goodness daylilies are resilient! Earlier this year, I planted 3 dozen dl's in the front yard to complete some new landscaping (after a very kind gentleman that I do business with agreed to dig and send in his off-season). 3 weeks later, after they had transitioned and were sending out new growth, we asked the gardener to mulch that area. Well.. instead of using the aged shavings/manure that has broken down to mulch over the past 12-18 months, we discovered the hard way that, not only did he use fresh, urine-soaked shavings and hot horse manure, but he buried everything approximately 15-18" deep. By the time we found all of the dl's (that was a nasty job), they were either roots with black slime or burnt to a crisp. We re-potted all of it and put them in the greenhouse and, remarkably, everyone survived and are finally looking lush again.

So... hopefully your daylilies will be fine but I absolutely understand why you are upset. Did you contact the seller to let them know??
"In the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." -Abraham Lincoln
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Apr 19, 2013 3:12 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
God is the only thing that matters.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 1 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Hibiscus Dragonflies Daylilies
Bee Lover Dahlias Butterflies Hostas Birds Lilies
Brian, you might like to contact LA about your problem. It is my understanding that if the listing says 10 of a certain seed then they have to give you 10. If it says DF they have to give you a double fan. If it does not say then email them before the purchase and save the email. I think the listings are supposed to be specific.
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Apr 19, 2013 8:02 AM CST
Name: Mona
Guntown, Ms (Zone 7b)
I love nature & everything outdoors
Daylilies Dog Lover
I would be upset too, I hope my post didn't lead you to believe different. I rarely pay $50 for a SF daylily and thankfully, I've gotten good dayllilies when I did or I too, would be very disapppointed and mad. You have every right to leave negative feedback if you can't get a response from the seller that assures you of better service.

I think anyone who ships should always send out shipping information so the buyer will know to be on the lookout for their packages. Really, baring an accident of somekind, there isn't much excuse not to now days. If a computer problem comes up, most folks can even overcome that pretty easily nowdays.

I would say, it's not necessary for your great, really great freind, to take the plants out everyday. Yes, they will be happier, but they are very very hardy and will do good just setting in the garage until warmer weather comes. In fact, unless you are having sub=freezing, they could be ok just outside next to a building so they are sheltered against the worst weather. I have no iddea how cold you are getting now, we're going to have 38 degrees tonight, which is terribly cold for us this time of the year. Our freaky Spring is not helping our daylilies!!! 38 will not hurt a daylily at all, just slows growth and right now, mine really need to grow.

I think it makes all of us sad that you've had a bad experience buying on the LA. I know it does me. I sure hope that whoever you bought from will step up and make all the necessary steps to make your purchase a better experience.

Good luck and happy gardeneing, Mona
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Apr 19, 2013 8:23 AM CST
Name: Brian
Ontario Canada (Zone 5b)
I know I should contact the LA but I'm just going to take this as a lesson learned and some money lost. I've learned who I can trust to send good seeds and who I can't. As for the plants, I'll see what the rest are like, I have a good feeling about them as the sellers have been in contact with me and have already given me dates as to when they will be shipping my plants and they are all in the timeframe I asked for. I know these plants will be OK once settled in, it was just disappointing to see what I got compared to what others have shown in their posts.

Thanks Mona, we are still getting freezing temps at night and the high for tomorrow is only supposed to be about 34 F. and calling for snow. From the Weather Network I can see it won't be any warmer at my friends place. In my garden the DL's are barely an inch or two high so far, even the evergreens haven't put on much new growth.

These are both recent intros otherwise I wouldn't have spent that much either. All the plants in my garden are older varieties and I really wanted some newer intros, I really like the photos of these two and knew I wouldn't be able to get them here.
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Apr 19, 2013 11:21 AM CST
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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My one negative experience was a couple of years ago when I paid something like $75 for a SF, and when it arrived it was TOTALLY dried out, leaves and all, and I had written to him right after I won it and requested that he not send it for two weeks because I would be out of town. But he sent it anyway. Our son was coming over to water/feed cats while we were away, and he called me to let me know the plant had arrived. He said it was barely the size of a pencil and totally brown, not yellow, with about three crunchy dried leaves and absolutely no green showing anywhere. So I told him how to plant it in a 1 gal pot, and I was so mad that I never gave any feedback on that one transaction. I've also seen his seller name listed here once or twice as someone other people have had a good experience with, mostly with seeds, so I didn't want to leave negative feedback in case it was just a fluke, but I will never order anything from that person again. Live and learn!

And since then I've never received anything nearly that bad again from a seller -- in fact, I'm usually totally pleased/thrilled!

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